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Old 08-09-2012, 11:03 AM   #21
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Default Re: Chrysler Pulls out of NASCAR

I'm a NASCAR watcher simply because those beasts on small tires are probably the most demanding race car to drive anywhere, granted the Rally cars are a handful but the big cars are so evenly matched that very small adjustments often spell the difference. Even with Dodge gone I'll continue to watch a few races a year, particularly Sonoma and the Glen.
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:23 PM   #22
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the money will to F1, here is a pic of the new dodge
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:22 PM   #23
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Doubt Fiat will be putting money saved from nascar pullout into a nonexistant Formula! team . Looks more like the benefits did not justify the costs . Racing is a business , the bottom line rules ..
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My bad ! Fiat owns 90% of Ferrari .
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:57 PM   #25
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My bad ! Fiat owns 90% of Ferrari .

yep they do,they have a cap of £40 million (50 million us )per team (two cars)
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:11 PM   #26
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I have worked in large industry most all my working career and if there is one thing I know and understand is the the end result has to be justified. Them owning Ferrari or any other business does not let you justify spending millions in a NASCAR venture that may not be paying for its self. Most of the time, every section has to stand on it own merit. We all, sometimes, think that racing is justified because of the exposure that it should offer to these companies. Some one has to put a quantitative number on that exposure and what does it really gain you. I have no idea what their thoughts are but it is apparent that they felt it was not quantitatively justifiable on Monday after the Sunday race. Now that doesnt mean that the bean counter is correct in their analysis but none the less, some one made that decision. Of course, there can always be a secondary motive for this move to let them regroup and get out from under the program as it now stands.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:48 PM   #27
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Win on Sunday, sell on Monday may have meant something back when NASCAR was racing real cars but today's racecars do not even resemble anything you would see at a dealership. Maybe the bean counters at Chrysler finally figured that out.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:22 PM   #28
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Aah, the great LEFT turn....nascar! If someone didn't paint a grill on the car you wouldn't know what it was.

No, they are not the hardest cars to drive, not even close! If you really want to see cars that are hard to drive, that go fast and do more than turn left look for Australian Super Car Racing. Nascar talks about trading paint yet these guys trade doors and fenders.

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Old 08-10-2012, 05:39 PM   #29
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Aah, the great LEFT turn....nascar! If someone didn't paint a grill on the car you wouldn't know what it was.

No, they are not the hardest cars to drive, not even close! If you really want to see cars that are hard to drive, that go fast and do more than turn left look for Australian Super Car Racing. Nascar talks about trading paint yet these guys trade doors and fenders.

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Old 08-11-2012, 05:21 AM   #30
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Default Re: Chrysler Pulls out of NASCAR

All about money and Penske isn't any different.... Ford has it Chrysler doesn't. Penske has those Dodges running and very competitive..I sure hate to see them leave NASCAR and those folks losing their jobs....
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My understanding is that the guy at Fiat drug his feet. There may have been a one year contract extension offered, but Ford offered five years. Penske will be closing their engine shop at the end of this season and a lot of good guys will be out of work.
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