If you like guns

[David Lee]

No treaty maybe entered into our govt, without the congress approving it by a 2/3 vote and no treaty maybe entered into by executive order.

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by David Lee

No treaty maybe entered into our govt, without the congress approving it by a 2/3 vote and no treaty maybe entered into by executive order.

I hope you are correct! I am very lacking in knowledge of the Constitution I am sad to say. Jim


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[art leong]

Originally Posted by David Lee

No treaty maybe entered into our govt, without the congress approving it by a 2/3 vote and no treaty maybe entered into by executive order.

But if it is not renounced or voted down we are required to follow it.
Vienna Convention.

[Jim Wahl]

If you don't watch anything else this year, you need to watch this! If you think it can't be done then you are a fool! This video is 20 minutes long but when it is done you will not believe what you saw. Everything is fact based and proven in the video. With one command you could lose your second amendment rights, your guns and possibly your life and freedom. Please watch this:




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[treessavoy]

I'm sorry Jim, but this guy is full of *****. The document he is misrepresenting was penned at the height of the cold war and never implemented. The document was written to draw Armies down to an equal level on the pretense that it would help avoid war and have the UN or a third party verify.

No where, that I could see, did the document designate civilian weapons but my computer would not down load the whole article so I could be wrong but how are "they" going to get our guns? I ain't giving them mine!

With the millions of weapons in the hands of citizens there would be no way to even find them all much less take them. If it were to actually happen do you think all us rednecks would give them out guns?....pried out of my cold dead hands!

JimR

[David Lee]

Originally Posted by art leong

But if it is not renounced or voted down we are required to follow it.
Vienna Convention.

Art that is not true, no international law or treatiy can trump the US Constitution, that court case I posted was directly on that point.

[Jim Wahl]

Did any of you see the whole thing? The New Orleans video or the radio interview with the Army soldier who helped confiscate guns in the middle of the night? Wake up. If the lowly N.O. mayor can make law what makes you think someone higher up can't do the same thing for the whole country? You don't think it can happen here? Ask the citizens of Australia. Wake up! Jim


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[treessavoy]

Here's the link for the Department of State publication 7277:

www.dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html

If the link doesn't work just google the top line.

In short the document is about nuclear disarmament and the drawing down of Armies and weapons, there is NO mention of civilian weapons, it's a classic example of picking out only the parts of sentences you want and out of text to inflame your believers.

As for the rest of the video my computer would take about 3 hours to download so I can only comment on the total misuse of the document listed above.

JimR

[art leong]

Originally Posted by David Lee

Art that is not true, no international law or treatiy can trump the US Constitution, that court case I posted was directly on that point.

http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/ins...s/1_1_1969.pdf

Here is how it works.
Check out the Vienna Convention. We already are party to that. This was signed and ratified in 1969 after the 1954 court case.
If the treaty is signed, it goes to congress (senate) and the president for ratification.
It is in effect till congress votes it down (1/3 of the senate can vote it down). Or the president renounces it. There are over 50 senators that have already stated they will vote against it.
But. Have you heard of a pocket veto? It never gets to a full senate vote. It would then be in force till the senate voted on it or the president renounces it.
Those are the facts.
You say they can't do this or that. Do you remember reading about the Japanese interment camps. These people were American citizens not foreign nationals.

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