Factory Showdown at INDY

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by GUMP

There have also been a few advancements in technology since 1969. And a lot of rule changes that allowed a lot of aftermarket parts into Stock. If you are building a Stocker you build by the current rules. I don't know of a single Stock racer that hasn't updated their cars in one way or another as the rules changed.

But the advancements didn't come all at once in a nice, tight, little package did they?

[D.Johns]

Thank you Ford for an incredible car!

After 48 years the Mustang is still running strong!

[JHeath]

Originally Posted by D.Johns

Thank you Ford for an incredible car!

After 48 years the Mustang is still running strong!

Well stated!!!!

[JHeath]

I am wondering, if Chevrolet gave Bruce Noland a new COPO Camaro, would he race it?

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by JHeath

I am wondering, if Chevrolet gave Bruce Noland a new COPO Camaro, would he race it?

The answer is No! I can buy one if I wanted but I'm not as brand-sick as some on this board.

Chuck, Gump - a racer would have to be a time traveler to enjoy the same benefits/gifts that the New cars are receiving. This does not include the bogus factors that you enjoy. I know most people don't want to be known for exploiting other racers for their own personal gain. But that is what you are doing with the assistance from nhra of course. And that makes everything all better.

[cambria]

Bo and Foghorn Leghorn bring it on no ego problems here.Just a desire th whip both your asses with my COPO.The time has come.
As to the other post about Paying for Top Stock.Each class has a spnosor like Summit or Jegs and Top Stock had GM until GM got in financial trouble and pulled out.At that Time Bo stepped up and Sponsored the class.That is what the paying was all about.For the new factory class its just because the big 3 have all put cars out there that it makes sense for the sanctioning bodies to run them heads up since I am sure everybody likes to see which company can put out the faster car.It would have been better if no one could have in anyway modified their car and then run them heads up but that was not to be.Furthermore for the big blower cars they can only run heads up if they are not tubbed out.

[davidhuff]

Originally Posted by cambria

Bo and Foghorn Leghorn bring it on no ego problems here.Just a desire th whip both your asses with my COPO.The time has come.
As to the other post about Paying for Top Stock.Each class has a spnosor like Summit or Jegs and Top Stock had GM until GM got in financial trouble and pulled out.At that Time Bo stepped up and Sponsored the class.That is what the paying was all about.For the new factory class its just because the big 3 have all put cars out there that it makes sense for the sanctioning bodies to run them heads up since I am sure everybody likes to see which company can put out the faster car.It would have been better if no one could have in anyway modified their car and then run them heads up but that was not to be.Furthermore for the big blower cars they can only run heads up if they are not tubbed out.

Enjoy your new COPO and have Fun!

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

But the advancements didn't come all at once in a nice, tight, little package did they?

So you didn't use any of those advancements when you built your Corvette?

I am building a 2010 Camaro. I am doing pretty much everything that the rule book allows. It wouldn't make sense to do anything else.

[KRatcliff]

Originally Posted by GUMP

So you didn't use any of those advancements when you built your Corvette?

I am building a 2010 Camaro. I am doing pretty much everything that the rule book allows. It wouldn't make sense to do anything else.

His Corvette has a VIN and met emission standards at the time it was introduced. None of the factory ringers could meet emission standards at the time they were introduced with their compression ratios, throttle bodies, camshaft lifts, etc....

No VIN = SS or AFX.

Edited to add: Different strokes for different folks. If a racer is pleased with themselves for qualifying at the top of the sheet and walking away from the other cars in head's up situations then more power (AHFS ) to them. I am personally more competitive than that and want to feel like I actually accomplished something.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by KRatcliff

His Corvette has a VIN and met emission standards at the time it was introduced. None of the factory ringers could meet emission standards at the time they were introduced with their compression ratios, throttle bodies, camshaft lifts, etc....

Were emission controls ever required on a Stocker? When Chevrolet built the 427 Corvettes and Camaros they were aimed at racing. They were also cutting edge for their time. Not your average daily driver!

No VIN = SS or AFX.

Which rule book are you reading? Lot's of Stockers have been built from non VIN cars.

Edited to add: Different strokes for different folks. If a racer is pleased with themselves for qualifying at the top of the sheet and walking away from the other cars in head's up situations then more power (AHFS ) to them. I am personally more competitive than that and want to feel like I actually accomplished something.

I said it a long time ago on here, the AHFS will sort these cars out over time. A new car should be faster than an old car. Why would the factories take a backwards step? Who would buy a slow car from them? I am glad that the factories have come back to Class racing.