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Old 07-02-2012, 01:19 AM   #1
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they can pay much less to the employees in Ohio where the cost of living is less.
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:58 AM   #2
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they can pay much less to the employees in Ohio where the cost of living is less.
The entire cost of doing business, especially manufacturing, is far less in Ohio.

Those not in California, or a state bordering California, are likely to see a significant reduction in shipping time and cost.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:57 AM   #3
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Just so you will know Dover/ PMI is Not foreign owned:

http://www.pmi-brands.com/AboutUs.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_Corporation

I might add that both Federal Mogul and Mahle/Clevite have gone through their own forms of reorganization/ MFG consolidation in the past couple of years.
Sometimes it helps business and other times it doesn't. The F/M changes it has increased the time it takes to get orders processed and shipped to me. They closed all the distribution centers that were a day or two away from me. This PMI change will probably help the time it takes to get orders. They won't be in Calif. with the shipping shelf they have marked "Ship to Texas, but wait a few days". :~)
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:02 AM   #4
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Adger,
Dover (according to one of my industry friends) has also been increasing their presence in China. They (according to him) are setting up an engine rebuilding company for the Asian market. I wonder how long it will take the man running JE/Wiseco/K1/Innovate to start making pistons so they can "keep their position" in the market like he did when he ran American Racing Wheels? JE has been "bleeding" quality people ( like Ed) for the last 6-7 years and it's sales reflect it. Heck even Eagle hardly uses them.
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:39 AM   #5
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Yes, No big secret read the links I posted or look them up your self. it's public info. Dover is an International company.
I did not post the information to debate or discuss the way Dover or PMI does business. I just though business owners and people like myself, that do business with them, would like a heads up on what was really going to happen. I didn't want anyone to be blindsided by any nay-sayers mis information. You know, and can see what I'm talking about. Eveyone knows that the "net' is famous for trash and misinformation.
OH! on Monday I got a couple of e-mails from Sean Crawford at JE
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Crawford
To: adgersperf
Sent: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:23 pm
Subject: JE Pistons manufacturing relocation


Adger,

I saw your posts online and thought you would be interested in our plans. I have attached a letter from our Sales Manager.

To clarify, we are only relocating manufacturing to Ohio. All sales, customer service, engineering and other will still remain in California and conduct business exactly as we have in the past. This move was driven by an opportunity to reduce lead times and shipping costs to the majority of our customers and allow for expanded capabilities (such as coatings) internally. As many know, California has become increasingly difficult to work with when it come to chemicals and operating a business overall. In addition, we had a large footprint available in Ohio of unused "free" space. This move will not be cheap for us, as we'll be moving ALL of our manufacturing equipment (76 CNC machines and supporting equipment), but long term it will help our customers get their pistons faster/less expensive and help us remain competitive.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Thank you,

Sean Crawford
Marketing Manager
JE Pistons
O: 714-898-9763 x4273
F: 714-891-3233

GT350HR If you send me your name and e-mail I will forward you the attachment letter from their sales manager.
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:35 AM   #6
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Not the same Dover race tracks different company
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