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Old 05-04-2012, 03:13 PM   #1
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So, you feel completely safe running against an 8-second car with a stock 1960's style unit or something like that?
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:28 PM   #2
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So, you feel completely safe running against an 8-second car with a stock 1960's style unit or something like that?
How about a SS/AH [ or most SS Mopars] having a catastrophic crank failure at 9500 with the centerlink thru the pan? This was a big topic at Indy several years ago wishing for rack and pinion. Catasrophy waiting to happen. NHRA said "yeah...we gotta take care of that".
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:31 PM   #3
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So, you feel completely safe running against an 8-second car with a stock 1960's style unit or something like that?
If the parts are new or in good shape I would.

Do you think a rack (especially a typical aftermarket drag racing version) is actually as strong as the old stuff (designed back in a day when there were many many many dirt roads with pot holes)?

Think about the mounting pads on the rack.......
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:52 PM   #4
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i say leave a little stock in superstock
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:07 PM   #5
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i say leave a little stock in superstock
Do you also mean that FWD should stay FWD and not converted to a RWD???
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:14 PM   #6
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Do you also mean that FWD should stay FWD and not converted to a RWD???
I didn't see that anywhere! I have built several of these fwd to rwd cars. And if youv'e never tried it, it's quite a project. Starting with aftermarket, struts and brakes, making a firewall, driveshaft tunnel and transmission tunnel and yes mounting to rack. I will say, I could build a rwd car 4 times quicker than fwd conversion and may do one soon to take advantage of an easier index. As far a rack for steering verses steering box, I see a weight advantage and for those drag links through the oil pan (chevy II) It would be easier to build a good pan. I think the rule is fine the way it is. sorry Bobby

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Old 05-04-2012, 09:51 PM   #7
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I didn't see that anywhere! I have built several of these fwd to rwd cars. And if youv'e never tried it, it's quite a project. Starting with aftermarket, struts and brakes, making a firewall, driveshaft tunnel and transmission tunnel and yes mounting to rack. I will say, I could build a rwd car 4 times quicker than fwd conversion and may do one soon to take advantage of an easier index. As far a rack for steering verses steering box, I see a weight advantage and for those drag links through the oil pan (chevy II) It would be easier to build a good pan. I think the rule is fine the way it is. sorry Bobby

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Ernie, I am very familiar with the evolution of the FWD SS cars. The early Olds cars built by FJ and others, do not even come close to new new generation of FWD cars. The early cars still kept the original lower control arms, modified to accept the Strange struts and did not have fabricated K-members either. They had a modified OEM K-member.

I could continue picking on the differences between the early and newer FWD. It is not fair for a RWD car to have a heads-up against an later FWD car.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:15 PM   #8
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Ernie, I am very familiar with the evolution of the FWD SS cars. The early Olds cars built by FJ and others, do not even come close to new new generation of FWD cars. The early cars still kept the original lower control arms, modified to accept the Strange struts and did not have fabricated K-members either. They had a modified OEM K-member.

I could continue picking on the differences between the early and newer FWD. It is not fair for a RWD car to have a heads-up against an later FWD car.
This is why the fwd conversions only run GT. If you want to run another car headsup, and have it be fair, run your rwd car in Super stock.
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:12 PM   #9
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So, you feel completely safe running against an 8-second car with a stock 1960's style unit or something like that?
Again, it all depends what they have for a front suspension and frame.

Most of the SS/AH cars have a Lamb Components suspension system that makes them safe.

However, like it was implied earlier. what happens if the centerlink is damaged due to an engine putting a few windows in the block?

I have also many GM cars develop cracks in the lower arms, elongate the bushing and ball joint holes and eventually fail.
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:47 PM   #10
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Jeez, I was disappointed when they got rid of stock rear springs...
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