What's up with NHRA logic?

Stocker 2 · 03-01-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RacingRicki

I thought the grade point system was to ensure that racers support the divisional races and/or natioanl open series. If you don't race the divisionals you can't race the nationals.

BINGO!!!!! We have a winner. At least there is someone who knows how the system works. I did not say he actually likes the system, he just knows how the system works.

In fact all those who are accepted to a National event know how the system works and they get to play.

RacingRicki · 03-01-2012, 07:34 PM

I like this system as long as it suits me.

rognelson777 · 03-01-2012, 07:42 PM

I will give another perspective, I am a business owner and I have a loyal customer, Places 2 orders with my company every year,
He calls me and wants to place a rush order, at the same time, i get a call out of the blue from someone else and they want to place a rush order and says maybe this will lead to 4 orders a year. I can only do one rush order.

Who do I please 1st or 2nd Guy? My policy was to service 1st guy, I call it loyalty.

With that being said,
I certainly would try to come up with a way to service 2nd customer.

danny waters sr · 03-01-2012, 09:03 PM

In this case the "1st customers " are already serviced and the 2nd customers still don't get serviced. I would maybe have a diff price to the 2nd customers so the 1st customers don't b!@#H about it.Say if a field is not full and a "no grade point" racer wants to enter then charge extra to get in the field......1st customer gets the less expensive deal...Just an idea...

treessavoy · 03-02-2012, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Stocker 2

BINGO!!!!! We have a winner. At least there is someone who knows how the system works. I did not say he actually likes the system, he just knows how the system works.

In fact all those who are accepted to a National event know how the system works and they get to play.

We all know how it's supposed to work....but it doesn't and once again why turn away money? It's the NHRA trying to tell you where you can race and if you don't cooperate you don't get to race at all. I should be able to drive up to the gate at Indy and pay my fee and race......I'm a member, I pay my dues, you(nhra) work for me, I want to race.........period!

Grade points are only a way for the NHRA to make money at member tracks.

How I see it,

Let the flogging begin

JimR

Jack Matyas · 03-02-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by treessavoy

It's the NHRA trying to tell you where you can race and if you don't cooperate you don't get to race at all.

Grade points are only a way for the NHRA to make money at member tracks.

JimR

Jim - Read what you are saying - its their job to keep control of the entries - look at the IHRA - they never know how many are going to show up .How could you properly staff a race like Indy when you haven't a clue who will show up at the gate ?

BTW , grade points are not given at all member tracks just the ones who host Lucas Oil races and National Opens .Another fact about them is that almost all are losers financially - ask any track operator .

Casey Miles · 03-02-2012, 09:19 AM

Talk about member tracks, down here all the tracks used to be NHRA, Now they are IHRA, my closest track to me is Orlando, 200 miles away. Who's fault is it that that the tracks go to another association? Not the racer! We used to have a national open at the old Moroso, (grade point) now there is nothing in the area. There are 5 tracks down here and all are IHRA.
I want to participate at the NHRA and do my best with limited time to do so. Since I got layed off from my job of 24 years, and started with a new job, there is no vacation time to just go to the points races that are 300 to 750 miles away.

There are still some racers out here with limited buggets and very limited time but still want to participate.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

James Perrone · 03-02-2012, 09:33 AM

Rules is rules... Go bracket racing..Right?
Wait till Etown National .I have 5 grade might not get in closest track for me
I will show them [nhra] I will go to 4 wide North Carolina
Also by next week former world champs will enter.It will fill up.
There are other options.Also saw your old photos on YB..the camaro was fast back then

Bob Don · 03-02-2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone

Rules is rules... Go bracket racing..Right?
Wait till Etown National .I have 5 grade might not get in closest track for me
I will show them [nhra] I will go to 4 wide North Carolina
Also by next week former world champs will enter.It will fill up.
There are other options.Also saw your old photos on YB..the camaro was fast back then

I'm with you, James. I want to enter Supernats but with a grade 4, I might be on the outside looking in. Needing grade points to enter a national is nothing new. When I started racing in the mid 70s, the division office would send you a request sheet for the national events you wanted to enter. You checked off the races and they sent you back the applications. These application forms had the number of division races you attended in the corner.

1320racer · 03-02-2012, 09:58 AM

just another example of the many in this country that feel they are ENTITLED to a good paying job, medical coverage, a house, a new car, paid vacation and now entry into a national event have the soialist mentality where everyone is equal and hard work, dedication, commitment means nothing.

03-01-2012, 07:34 PM	#2
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03-01-2012, 07:42 PM	#3
rognelson777 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 376 Likes: 20 Liked 135 Times in 74 Posts	Re: What's up with NHRA logic? I will give another perspective, I am a business owner and I have a loyal customer, Places 2 orders with my company every year, He calls me and wants to place a rush order, at the same time, i get a call out of the blue from someone else and they want to place a rush order and says maybe this will lead to 4 orders a year. I can only do one rush order. Who do I please 1st or 2nd Guy? My policy was to service 1st guy, I call it loyalty. With that being said, I certainly would try to come up with a way to service 2nd customer.

03-01-2012, 09:03 PM	#4
danny waters sr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: lagrange,nc Posts: 2,224 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What's up with NHRA logic? In this case the "1st customers " are already serviced and the 2nd customers still don't get serviced. I would maybe have a diff price to the 2nd customers so the 1st customers don't b!@#H about it.Say if a field is not full and a "no grade point" racer wants to enter then charge extra to get in the field......1st customer gets the less expensive deal...Just an idea... __________________ Danny Waters, Sr / 73 Duster "340"

03-02-2012, 09:19 AM	#7
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 703 Likes: 127 Liked 488 Times in 90 Posts	Re: What's up with NHRA logic? Talk about member tracks, down here all the tracks used to be NHRA, Now they are IHRA, my closest track to me is Orlando, 200 miles away. Who's fault is it that that the tracks go to another association? Not the racer! We used to have a national open at the old Moroso, (grade point) now there is nothing in the area. There are 5 tracks down here and all are IHRA. I want to participate at the NHRA and do my best with limited time to do so. Since I got layed off from my job of 24 years, and started with a new job, there is no vacation time to just go to the points races that are 300 to 750 miles away. There are still some racers out here with limited buggets and very limited time but still want to participate. Casey Miles 248H Stock?

03-02-2012, 09:33 AM	#8
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,673 Likes: 3,361 Liked 1,804 Times in 422 Posts	Re: What's up with NHRA logic? Rules is rules... Go bracket racing..Right? Wait till Etown National .I have 5 grade might not get in closest track for me I will show them [nhra] I will go to 4 wide North Carolina Also by next week former world champs will enter.It will fill up. There are other options.Also saw your old photos on YB..the camaro was fast back then __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

03-02-2012, 09:58 AM	#10
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: What's up with NHRA logic? just another example of the many in this country that feel they are ENTITLED to a good paying job, medical coverage, a house, a new car, paid vacation and now entry into a national event have the soialist mentality where everyone is equal and hard work, dedication, commitment means nothing.