Rules for Class Championship on NHRA

Andrew Hill · 01-31-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Carr

Shoe polish has no buisness being mentioned with Class Eliminations.

But, I do understand Scott's point. A few classes (SS/AH 9.30 and SS/AM 9.00 come to mind) have pretty stiff Indexes. Making it pretty dificult for cars in those cars to have much of a chance in a Class Combo.

My suggestion would be to bring the tough indexes in-line with the others. Maybe, say, 9.50 for SS/AH and 9.25 for SS/AM.

Hemi cars have been 8 teens, which would be 1.30+ under that index, and there are a lot of A/SM(A) cars that are legal for SS/AM that have run well into the 7's. I know of one A/SM that has run 7.60s. The indexes that need changing are some of the modified classes, more specifically some of the non V8 ones, that are really soft.

Mike Carr · 01-31-2012, 03:15 PM

Alan/Andrew, I'd think most of the Indexes currently are pretty fair. SS/Mod classes lose Index when the AHFS is flagged. SS/BM went from 9.65 to 9.50 from a hit at Indy a few years back (James Caro), then took the three tenths (that everybody received) hit, down to the current 9.20. Same with SS/AM. Scott Gove ran 7.99 at the Dutch in great air a few years ago, lowering the Index, via AHFS, from 9.45 to 9.30, then the .3 reduction down to 9.00. Same with SS/AH, a .15 hit via AHFS, then .3 down to the current 9.30. The quickest SS/AH at Indy last year was 8.42 by CW Jr, only -.87 and change. I think SS/AM was empty the last two years at Indy (except maybe John Clegg), for fear a racer in that class wouldn't qualify against a stiff Index.

Point being, Unless you get killer, mineshaft air, a current SS/AM, SS/BM, SS/AH, etc aren't going to run 1 second under, while many other combinations.classes can with ease. If only, say, 5-10 classes out of the near 140 within Stock and S/S are tough Indexes, it would reason to bring those 10 classes up, not bring the other 130 down.

Andrew Hill · 01-31-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty Dog

I didn't know A/SM was the same as SS/AM. Isn't one Competition Eliminator and one is Superstock?

They have the exact same rules, other than the automatic weight break of 250 lbs in comp and 5% in SS. Scott Hedlund's A/SM which went 7.69 @ over 176 would be legal in SS/AM. There are a lot of superstock modified classes with rules identical or very close to those in comp.

Charley Downing · 02-01-2012, 09:30 AM

Andrew that is a $125,000 car with an $80,000 motor. I don't see to many SS racer running out to build one for SS/AM. For $4,000 of class money.

01-31-2012, 03:15 PM	#2
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Rules for Class Championship on NHRA Alan/Andrew, I'd think most of the Indexes currently are pretty fair. SS/Mod classes lose Index when the AHFS is flagged. SS/BM went from 9.65 to 9.50 from a hit at Indy a few years back (James Caro), then took the three tenths (that everybody received) hit, down to the current 9.20. Same with SS/AM. Scott Gove ran 7.99 at the Dutch in great air a few years ago, lowering the Index, via AHFS, from 9.45 to 9.30, then the .3 reduction down to 9.00. Same with SS/AH, a .15 hit via AHFS, then .3 down to the current 9.30. The quickest SS/AH at Indy last year was 8.42 by CW Jr, only -.87 and change. I think SS/AM was empty the last two years at Indy (except maybe John Clegg), for fear a racer in that class wouldn't qualify against a stiff Index. Point being, Unless you get killer, mineshaft air, a current SS/AM, SS/BM, SS/AH, etc aren't going to run 1 second under, while many other combinations.classes can with ease. If only, say, 5-10 classes out of the near 140 within Stock and S/S are tough Indexes, it would reason to bring those 10 classes up, not bring the other 130 down. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

02-01-2012, 09:30 AM	#4
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Rules for Class Championship on NHRA Andrew that is a $125,000 car with an $80,000 motor. I don't see to many SS racer running out to build one for SS/AM. For $4,000 of class money. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK