contingency

Sean Marconette · 01-17-2012, 02:51 PM

Or products to buy as well.

NewHemi · 01-17-2012, 04:17 PM

I am still waiting, certainly not holding my breath, for contingency payments for 2010 and 2011. In 2011, Columbus Sports Nationals was supposed to pay regular contingency. A few paid, and many did not.

Chrysler, VIP and Moser paid

Even the payments for the new Class Performers Awards are not complete yet, and that one was supposed to be the big deal replacement for the race by race contingencies. Chrysler, VP, Comp Cams and Moser paid here too.

Apparently it all works just the same.. Some pay, and some don't pay.

A lot of decals are coming off of my car.

David
The New Hemi Guy

Ed Wright · 01-17-2012, 04:47 PM

Who didn't pay you David?

hemidup · 01-18-2012, 03:54 AM

How do I get on the NHRA/IHRA contingency program? Who do I contact? Not that I have money to burn, but I'm willing to pay out to the one's that use what I've built like Wertman, Teuton and Barton.

SS/GSI · 01-18-2012, 02:08 PM

Glen, I'm with you on the naked car deal! That's why NHRA will never see a single contingency sticker on any of my cars accept for the Lucas Oil one, which is mandatory, which trust me is not in a flattering location! I don't believe the manufacturers owe us anything; however they do give the money to the NHRA regardless of wether the contingency is claimed or not. I would suggest that the NHRA open there books to their members, us, and average the left over contingency the following season on top of the already posted payouts for National and Divisional events. Myself, being an pessimist, knows fully well that this idea would cut into California's bottom line and then they wouldn't be able to pay themselves 300-800k, so I guess I will have to keep going for the Wally's and as a social outlet.

NewHemi · 01-18-2012, 11:04 PM

There are so many non payers from Columbus, all I can say is that VP, Mopar, and Moser paid.

As for the National Class Performer, there is currently one who hasn't paid. But before I go public, I will give him and the NHRA one more chance.

But seriously, my car will only have about four decals next year. Contingency payments are dead. And the space on my car will go to those who actually support the Racers.

David
The New Hemi Guy

Ed Wright · 01-18-2012, 11:23 PM

I have a friend that has been in three finals this past year and hasn't yet been paid by VP, ATI, or BME.

Patrick Downing · 01-18-2012, 11:43 PM

VP requires you to send in a proof of purchase now. I was just on the phone with them today. The gal I talked to said the best way to do it is just fax them a receipt at the beginning of each season and they will put you on "the list". ATI is the same.

Jim Wahl · 01-19-2012, 12:20 AM

I'm sorry, I will NEVER understand why a sponsor would rather pay the contingency money to NHRA at the end of the year instead of the racers who support their companies! There is no good outcome to stiffing the racer! It's a lose/ lose situation. I have noticed a big reduction of decals on cars in the last couple of years. I myself have reduced the amount my right about half. When I won the Southeastern National Open at the end of '09 I got NO contingency payout from anybody! It's really amazing how good some of these guys are at putting you off. NHRA is no help, after all, they get the money if you don't! Jim

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thomas sheehan · 01-18-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NewHemi

I am still waiting, certainly not holding my breath, for contingency payments for 2010 and 2011. In 2011, Columbus Sports Nationals was supposed to pay regular contingency. A few paid, and many did not.

Chrysler, VIP and Moser paid

Even the payments for the new Class Performers Awards are not complete yet, and that one was supposed to be the big deal replacement for the race by race contingencies. Chrysler, VP, and Moser paid here too.

Apparently it all works just the same.. Some pay, and some don't pay.

A lot of decals are coming off of my car.

David
The New Hemi Guy

Hi David

I have a question. The "Class Performers" program just showed a picture of the companys that were going to pay. Did Mopar pay one payment ($500), or did they pay $500 for each product they usually pay for at every race (valve covers, engine, rear end, ignition, etc). It was never very clear in the program rules. It could make a difference of a few thousand dollars.... if someone was looking to chase it (with a mopar).

01-17-2012, 02:51 PM	#1
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 977 Likes: 794 Liked 275 Times in 76 Posts	Re: contingency Or products to buy as well. __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N

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NewHemi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 472 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: contingency I am still waiting, certainly not holding my breath, for contingency payments for 2010 and 2011. In 2011, Columbus Sports Nationals was supposed to pay regular contingency. A few paid, and many did not. Chrysler, VIP and Moser paid Even the payments for the new Class Performers Awards are not complete yet, and that one was supposed to be the big deal replacement for the race by race contingencies. Chrysler, VP, Comp Cams and Moser paid here too. Apparently it all works just the same.. Some pay, and some don't pay. A lot of decals are coming off of my car. David The New Hemi Guy Last edited by NewHemi; 01-23-2012 at 11:09 PM.

01-17-2012, 04:47 PM	#3
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: contingency Who didn't pay you David? __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

01-18-2012, 03:54 AM	#4
hemidup Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 409 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: contingency How do I get on the NHRA/IHRA contingency program? Who do I contact? Not that I have money to burn, but I'm willing to pay out to the one's that use what I've built like Wertman, Teuton and Barton. __________________ Jerry Williams NSS/A, E/S, PRO E.T. And the "Grandaddy" of Gen III Hemi Performance...The fire inside me still burn's.

01-18-2012, 02:08 PM	#5
SS/GSI Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 292 Likes: 79 Liked 759 Times in 109 Posts	Re: contingency Glen, I'm with you on the naked car deal! That's why NHRA will never see a single contingency sticker on any of my cars accept for the Lucas Oil one, which is mandatory, which trust me is not in a flattering location! I don't believe the manufacturers owe us anything; however they do give the money to the NHRA regardless of wether the contingency is claimed or not. I would suggest that the NHRA open there books to their members, us, and average the left over contingency the following season on top of the already posted payouts for National and Divisional events. Myself, being an pessimist, knows fully well that this idea would cut into California's bottom line and then they wouldn't be able to pay themselves 300-800k, so I guess I will have to keep going for the Wally's and as a social outlet.

01-18-2012, 11:04 PM	#6
NewHemi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 472 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: contingency There are so many non payers from Columbus, all I can say is that VP, Mopar, and Moser paid. As for the National Class Performer, there is currently one who hasn't paid. But before I go public, I will give him and the NHRA one more chance. But seriously, my car will only have about four decals next year. Contingency payments are dead. And the space on my car will go to those who actually support the Racers. David The New Hemi Guy Last edited by NewHemi; 01-18-2012 at 11:08 PM.

01-18-2012, 11:23 PM	#7
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: contingency I have a friend that has been in three finals this past year and hasn't yet been paid by VP, ATI, or BME. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

01-18-2012, 11:43 PM	#8
Patrick Downing Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 37 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: contingency VP requires you to send in a proof of purchase now. I was just on the phone with them today. The gal I talked to said the best way to do it is just fax them a receipt at the beginning of each season and they will put you on "the list". ATI is the same. __________________ Patrick Downing 3569

01-19-2012, 12:20 AM	#9
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: contingency I'm sorry, I will NEVER understand why a sponsor would rather pay the contingency money to NHRA at the end of the year instead of the racers who support their companies! There is no good outcome to stiffing the racer! It's a lose/ lose situation. I have noticed a big reduction of decals on cars in the last couple of years. I myself have reduced the amount my right about half. When I won the Southeastern National Open at the end of '09 I got NO contingency payout from anybody! It's really amazing how good some of these guys are at putting you off. NHRA is no help, after all, they get the money if you don't! Jim . __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association. Last edited by Jim Wahl; 01-19-2012 at 12:26 AM.