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Old 01-10-2012, 10:49 AM   #1
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Don,there's nothing wrong with the system.The problem is that you want to dumb it down to the lowest common denominator.
The chase for the World was never meant for the weak and poor.Besides,the 3/5 system
which anyone seriously chasing points is fairly easy to attain.The extra 3/3 seperates the men from the boys.
Plan your racing season in Feb.,stay as close to home for the 3/5 and if you have the points then go for the 3/3.Simple Don,it's not Little League where now if one team scores more than 10 runs the game is stopped and everybody goes to the mall fast food center and feels all warm and bubbly.
This idea is not about me ,I am smarter than that to spend all that money for virtually no return in chasing the points . this is my point there should be a fresher points chase system in todays economic environment that would be more fair to all including the touring pros
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This idea is not about me ,I am smarter than that to spend all that money for virtually no return in chasing the points . this is my point there should be a fresher points chase system in todays economic environment that would be more fair to all including the touring pros
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If the whole going to every race theory was true then what happened in SS? World Championships are not meant to be an easy task to accomplish. I think our system is perfect now because even if you go to every single race you can only claim 3 nationals and 5 divisionals. In my opinion points is not the problem it's the payout's. Pay 5k to the winner at a national event and tell me if the racing economy doesnt start to get better in NHRA.
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:56 AM   #3
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01 Jackie Alley 651 5/7
02 Peter Biondo 634 10/8
03 David Rampy 625 14/8

If the whole going to every race theory was true then what happened in SS? World Championships are not meant to be an easy task to accomplish. I think our system is perfect now because even if you go to every single race you can only claim 3 nationals and 5 divisionals. In my opinion points is not the problem it's the payout's. Pay 5k to the winner at a national event and tell me if the racing economy doesnt start to get better in NHRA.
Good Point about the payout but no one ever complains about the purse except to other racers
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:14 PM   #4
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Default Re: It is time to change the Point System

If we're going to change the points system for Stock Eliminator and Super Stock, the changes should be to reflect the performance based nature of the classes.

We should be paying points for qualifying 1 thru 10, for class eliminations, for class wins, and for national records, we should also be paying bonus points for heads up wins in final eliminations.
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Old 01-10-2012, 05:03 PM   #5
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01 Jackie Alley 651 5/7
02 Peter Biondo 634 10/8
03 David Rampy 625 14/8

If the whole going to every race theory was true then what happened in SS? World Championships are not meant to be an easy task to accomplish. I think our system is perfect now because even if you go to every single race you can only claim 3 nationals and 5 divisionals. In my opinion points is not the problem it's the payout's. Pay 5k to the winner at a national event and tell me if the racing economy doesnt start to get better in NHRA.
Yes, but YOU get to pick the best of those 3 nationals and 5 divisional races.
Now if it was "claim the race before you tech", then it would be perfectly acceptable. Yep, you have a bad day and go out 1st round then that's not a big payday on points. But with the current system, if I travel the continent, I can have many bad days and still come out ahead because I pick the gory days and throw out the bad days. If your a great racer, a truly great racer, you should have no problem in claiming a race before, not after.
Kinda like speed dating instead of a single blind date...
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if it were me I would have a points system for the national championship This way.

A racer can get points at your home division only ,your best 5 divisional races count as points out of 7 races . If you set a national record , you get points , if You qualifiy number one you get points . The the top two or three of each division show up for The National championship ,either at a race specially for them , or have a round robin type format or the normal format for eliminations . .

The reason in This economic enviroinment is very obvious Money and time is not there for over 90% of the racers to chase the points .

Right now the present system is set up for the 10% to 15 % of the racers who either have a lot of money to race or have a lot of time to race . Just look at who at the winners the last ten years , heck i bet even they would like this system especially now .
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Yes, but YOU get to pick the best of those 3 nationals and 5 divisional races.
Now if it was "claim the race before you tech", then it would be perfectly acceptable. Yep, you have a bad day and go out 1st round then that's not a big payday on points. But with the current system, if I travel the continent, I can have many bad days and still come out ahead because I pick the gory days and throw out the bad days. If your a great racer, a truly great racer, you should have no problem in claiming a race before, not after.
Kinda like speed dating instead of a single blind date...

What is wrong with the current system?? You make it seem like you can go to 10 races, lose 1st round at every one and still be world champ. I know you are not a rookie to this sport Jeff so you have seen points totals and know how hard it is to win a champoinship. You can win a champoinship with out leaving your division, all you have to do is be a bad ***! Not complain about HP ratings, DP, CJ's, points systems, light weight windows. Cut a light and drive the finish line like a mofo. I'm sure Peter Biondo is real angry that a 1971 chevy got 3 HP taken off of it. LoL!!!
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Hey Chip did you hear NHRA just came out with an innovative idea to help save racers some money, they are going to have division double races on the same weekend. Man what a great idea!
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here is my 2 cents, it will never change and think about this, he or she that does run for a championship ends up spending more then you make up with the $ for championship and what the gold card will save you.
Death ears and no Don I wont let myself get into a a converstation about this with you, been there done that, like talking to a wall, lol.
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here is my 2 cents, it will never change and think about this, he or she that does run for a championship ends up spending more then you make up with the $ for championship and what the gold card will save you.
Death ears and no Don I wont let myself get into a a converstation about this with you, been there done that, like talking to a wall, lol.
Nitro said "he or she that does run for a championship ends up spending more then you make up with the $ for championship and what the gold card will save you".


that is exactely my point why does this have to be that way finacially .There could be a way that racers can chase the national Chanmpionship without costing a arm and leg >

Nitro if you don't like talking to a wall then don't lol
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