Test & Tune Pricing

[LNorton]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

it has been my experience that most of the time the test and tune session are not worth it . Most of the time the track does not prepp the track at all .

That's the best time to test. If you can make your junk work on that it will work on anything. We have one particular track we use just for this reason.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by LNorton

That's the best time to test. If you can make your junk work on that it will work on anything. We have one particular track we use just for this reason.

That's not the reason I go to test. I'm sure as Hell not going to pay the track for that, take a day out of the shop, buy diesel, buy race gas, and put wear and tear on the car to go spin the tires. I can do burn outs in the drive way if all I want to do is waste time and money.

[Don Kennedy]

Originally Posted by LNorton

That's the best time to test. If you can make your junk work on that it will work on anything. We have one particular track we use just for this reason.

I don't need to test for a poorly prepared track , and I should not have to tune my car for a unsafe track . It is the responsibility of the track to prepare the track with safety in mind as well as great traction . I have just about quit testing and tune as the last 40 or so times the track is junk for my car , maybe not junk for a bracket car , or maybe a clutch car who can slip the clutch ,but for the higher HP cars test and tune is a waste most of the time

[Mike Carr]

$100 for a test session is rediculous. No matter where it is and no matter how good the track is prepped.

The track at Hagerstown MD has test and tune on Saturday's. $30 for a 5-6 hour session. Normally you can make as many runs as you want...8, 10 runs is not uncommon (though November 5th was pretty packed and not sure if anyone got more than 6-7 runs). Track is (was) always prepped very well when they used VHT. This year, they switched to VP, and the track doesn't seem to work as well as when they used VHT (from what I hear, in the near future, many tracks will be switching to VP over VHT for cost/EPA issues).

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by Mike Carr

(from what I hear, in the near future, many tracks will be switching to VP over VHT for cost/EPA issues).

Very interesting!

[Alan Roehrich]

While I agree, $100 is a lot of money for a test and tune, I'd be a lot more wiling to pay $100 and get a session that was well run and had good track prep, than to pay $40-$50 for a session that wasn't well run, and/or didn't have good track prep. The rest of the costs are the same.

On the subject of traction compounds, I suppose the next thing will be which tire manufacturer does the best job of adjusting their tire compound to work with whatever the most common traction compound is. If that is even possible.

[LNorton]

I will never understand people moaning and groaning about track prep all the time. Work on making the car work in the worst of conditions.....

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by LNorton

I will never understand people moaning and groaning about track prep all the time. Work on making the car work in the worst of conditions.....

Just yet ANOTHER reason why Stock and Super Stock is NOT always just a bracket race.

What does your car run in 60ft?

60 ft is everything to a true Super Stock/Stock racer

How can you determine if you have improved your 60 ft or ET while testing something,if you lose two tenths in the first 60 ft????

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by LNorton

I will never understand people moaning and groaning about track prep all the time. Work on making the car work in the worst of conditions.....

Well, we pay various fees, some of which supposedly go toward track prep. I don't know about you, but I have this really bizarre desire to get whatever I paid for, at least within reason. If part of what I am charged at the gate is supposed to go toward the cost of track prep, then I figure it is reasonable of me to expect decent traction on the starting line.