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Old 12-12-2011, 07:23 PM   #1
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Default Re: heads- up runs

I feel like the heads up runs don't mean much unless they are in a later round.

in 1996-1997 I had a '69 Nova in G and H/SA. Didn't really race it all that much.....

It was a turd......with a wore out engine when I bought it....

I got down to 7 cars at one race with that turd motor and was driving very well. Felt like I could win....BUT...

Was dieing as each round I saw other cars in the same class advance and they were all faster than me....7 cars left 4 were in...H/SA me included...

Bottom line was I got hammered and was done.......at 7cars....

Picked it up a few tenths the following year but was still well behind and than the LT-1's showed up!!.....Sold it...
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:43 PM   #2
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Default Re: heads- up runs

Over the years I have witnessed MPR Mike have more than a few. I don't know what the record is for heads-up runs in one race but Mike had (4) in a row at one of the Chicago National events ( all star race event ).
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Old 12-12-2011, 08:45 PM   #3
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In the last 10 years between our two cars,I would say we have had at least 50 heads up runs.

I think we have won about 5.

Sometimes at National events,we will lose in class and the ladder comes out,and we will get the SAME car again.

I might point out that you also need to consider how many heads up races you COULD have had if both you and your same class car opponent had advanced.If you lose in round 1 or 2 consistantly,your odds of getting a heads up are usually less.

Take for example a race like the 2011 U.S. Nationals.

Had I attended the event and IF I was able to qualify,I would have been in F/SA.

The eventual winner was Jeff Teuton in an F/SA Drag Pak.

I have to assume that the best any F/SA car could have done at Indy was Runner Up.

I don't care what anybody says,this is NOT Bracket Racing,

In bracket racing,each car has an equal chance of winning.In Stock Eliminator,if you have a poor combo or don't "work" on your car,you have GREATLY reduced your chances of winning....especially in Division 1 and 3 with an A-H car.
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:20 PM   #4
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Default Re: heads- up runs

I've had many #1 qualifier positions. Does that factor into Class racing?
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:22 PM   #5
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I've had many #1 qualifier positions. Does that factor into Class racing?
That is another thing that is HUGE.

If you can qualify #1,you will get the first bye run.In some races,you may get more than one bye if you keep winning!
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:41 PM   #6
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Default Re: heads- up runs

I had two this year but the possibility of many more. I think the idea of knowing that a heads-up run is possible in the future is as important to class racers as actually running one (especially in Stock). When I get a ladder I look at who I have to race first round and if/when the possibility of a heads-up run will be coming down the line. You have to prepare for it if you are going to run Division 1 because sooner or later its going to happen unless you run from people who are faster. You can only hide for so long up here and as Todd mentioned, title contenders have had their year ruined by one or two heads-ups.
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Old 12-12-2011, 09:46 PM   #7
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Cool Re: heads- up runs

2 in stock 1-1
2 in superstock 2-0
not many for how many F & G cars in our Div.
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Old 12-12-2011, 10:11 PM   #8
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I feel like the heads up runs don't mean much unless they are in a later round.
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You will have to explain that one to me. If you lose a heads up in a early round you don't see the later rounds.
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Old 12-12-2011, 10:42 PM   #9
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Default Re: heads- up runs

I've had a heads up at every national event in the last four or more years. Why? I only go to national events that run CLASS, because S/SS is NOT bracket racing (and it takes two races to make $310 and five days worth it to me).

If you aren't hitting heads up runs in the eliminator in D1 or D3, it's because you aren't winning any rounds! If you don't count class, that's because you aren't a real S/SS racer. Flame on............
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Old 12-12-2011, 10:56 PM   #10
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One for one......payed-off not to be early!
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