Wally Parks editorial from Dec 1955

bill dedman · 12-06-2011, 06:14 AM

The "big deal" is, Ford never EVER put two 4bbls on a 292... LOL!

You knew that....

BlueOval Ralph · 12-06-2011, 09:47 AM

In one of the 312 Engine books there is a copy of a Ford Dealer bulletin form the spring of 1956 ( I have the book if I could figure out hot to post it I can scan it) li lists a two fourv and cam kit for the Ford line bolts right on a 292 Buddy Bar cast intake and tea pot Holleys the intake took a different valley pan, one with a recess to clear bottom of intake. Had one on my 1956 Ford Sunliner

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Originally Posted by bill dedman

The "big deal" is, Ford never EVER put two 4bbls on a 292... LOL!

You knew that....

RJ Sledge · 12-06-2011, 01:23 PM

Ralph you are correct, it was a dealer installed option from Ford in the 56 passenger car models. Only the 56 TBird got that combo from the Factory. 292/245hp

Bill you are sort of correct, Ford did not have any Passenger car 292 dual quad 245hp combo's built at the factory, they had the selling dealer install that option before delivery.

RJ

Nitro Joe Jackson · 12-06-2011, 01:43 PM

speaking of tear downs, i remember the days everybody was torn down after winning class and after you won your eliminator you was torn down in staging lanes after pictures where taken, i still remember Max Hurley coming over, taking a beer out of our cooler and looking at my father and the IHRA tech man grinning and saying, "Hope she is just a little big" after we won the Empire Nationals, lol we was good to go.

Jim Parsons · 12-07-2011, 03:29 PM

What's to come of all this dishonesty? Well, there are several possible solutions. One is to discontinue the running of Stock classes, but this isn't practical. Another might be to run Stocks for "time only," giving no awards to winners. Last, but not least, would be to change class restrictions to simply require "no visible modifications," leaving hidden parts wide open to alteration.

Travis,
Thanks for the editorial, well written as always by Wally and at the time sincerely having the best interest of the sportsman Stock racer at heart.

However I’m not sure I’m getting the point of this post, is Glendora considering some changes to Stock eliminator? I.e. “discontinuing the Stock classes” or perhaps “no visible modifications” making it stock appearing leaving hidden parts open to alteration.
Just call me paranoid but with all that’s going on with opening up the rules away from true stock I feel justified in my concern.

Or is about the tech personnel being under appreciated? As far as the tech personnel I know I have tremendous respect for them and the sincerity. From what I hear underappreciated and under compensated is more an issue with their employer these days than from the racers. I guess another affirmation of the tech personnel’s committed sincerity and respect for class racing.

If Wally was around these days what would he be writing about stock eliminator and tech?

Thanks and Regards
Jim

Casey Miles · 12-08-2011, 09:22 AM

If I knew how to post a picture, I'd post a 1956 Merc with the 2 x 4 tea pot carb engine that was in my friends shop not too long ago.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

Fred Holdorf · 12-08-2011, 02:20 PM

1956 Ford and Merc 312 cu in, 2 x 4 were rated at 260 HP. 56 Ford/Merc 312 single quad was rated 225/230 HP. Also NASCAR Ford's ran "tea pot"carbs but Merc's had option of Carter WCFB's. Popular cheater trick was to use bigger Cadillac Eldorado carbs for 5 to10 HP advantage. 57 Ford had 2, 2 x 4 combinations 270 HP with small cam and 285 with big cam, both 312 Cu In. I've never seen factory assy. line built 2 x 4 292 cu in cars, but alot of wierd combo's could be built if you knew someone!

james schaechter · 12-08-2011, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey Miles

If I knew how to post a picture, I'd post a 1956 Merc with the 2 x 4 tea pot carb engine that was in my friends shop not too long ago.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

Here it is Casey.

12-06-2011, 06:14 AM	#1
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Wally Parks editorial from Dec 1955 The "big deal" is, Ford never EVER put two 4bbls on a 292... LOL! You knew that.... __________________ Bill

12-06-2011, 01:23 PM	#3
RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 783 Likes: 502 Liked 288 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Wally Parks editorial from Dec 1955 Ralph you are correct, it was a dealer installed option from Ford in the 56 passenger car models. Only the 56 TBird got that combo from the Factory. 292/245hp Bill you are sort of correct, Ford did not have any Passenger car 292 dual quad 245hp combo's built at the factory, they had the selling dealer install that option before delivery. RJ

12-06-2011, 01:43 PM	#4
Nitro Joe Jackson VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loudonville, Ohio or where ever the Nitro Lounge is parked Posts: 2,293 Likes: 58 Liked 67 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Wally Parks editorial from Dec 1955 speaking of tear downs, i remember the days everybody was torn down after winning class and after you won your eliminator you was torn down in staging lanes after pictures where taken, i still remember Max Hurley coming over, taking a beer out of our cooler and looking at my father and the IHRA tech man grinning and saying, "Hope she is just a little big" after we won the Empire Nationals, lol we was good to go. __________________ Nitro Joe Jackson STK 3431 nitrojoe@neo.rr.com

12-07-2011, 03:29 PM	#5
Jim Parsons Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kearney Mo Posts: 197 Likes: 427 Liked 195 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Wally Parks editorial from Dec 1955 What's to come of all this dishonesty? Well, there are several possible solutions. One is to discontinue the running of Stock classes, but this isn't practical. Another might be to run Stocks for "time only," giving no awards to winners. Last, but not least, would be to change class restrictions to simply require "no visible modifications," leaving hidden parts wide open to alteration. Travis, Thanks for the editorial, well written as always by Wally and at the time sincerely having the best interest of the sportsman Stock racer at heart. However I’m not sure I’m getting the point of this post, is Glendora considering some changes to Stock eliminator? I.e. “discontinuing the Stock classes” or perhaps “no visible modifications” making it stock appearing leaving hidden parts open to alteration. Just call me paranoid but with all that’s going on with opening up the rules away from true stock I feel justified in my concern. Or is about the tech personnel being under appreciated? As far as the tech personnel I know I have tremendous respect for them and the sincerity. From what I hear underappreciated and under compensated is more an issue with their employer these days than from the racers. I guess another affirmation of the tech personnel’s committed sincerity and respect for class racing. If Wally was around these days what would he be writing about stock eliminator and tech? Thanks and Regards Jim

12-08-2011, 09:22 AM	#6
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 704 Likes: 128 Liked 499 Times in 91 Posts	Re: Wally Parks editorial from Dec 1955 If I knew how to post a picture, I'd post a 1956 Merc with the 2 x 4 tea pot carb engine that was in my friends shop not too long ago. Casey Miles 248H Stock?

12-08-2011, 02:20 PM	#7
Fred Holdorf Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Minden, Nv Posts: 44 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Wally Parks editorial from Dec 1955 1956 Ford and Merc 312 cu in, 2 x 4 were rated at 260 HP. 56 Ford/Merc 312 single quad was rated 225/230 HP. Also NASCAR Ford's ran "tea pot"carbs but Merc's had option of Carter WCFB's. Popular cheater trick was to use bigger Cadillac Eldorado carbs for 5 to10 HP advantage. 57 Ford had 2, 2 x 4 combinations 270 HP with small cam and 285 with big cam, both 312 Cu In. I've never seen factory assy. line built 2 x 4 292 cu in cars, but alot of wierd combo's could be built if you knew someone!