Time to Revisit the Super Times?

[Jeff Beckman]

This would make people (also known as NHRA employeees), (not to be confussed with the guys working thier asses off for minamum wage at the track) think, and make decisions. Not going to happen. Along with others (racers) who will stand in line to complain, any change hardly seems worth it in our complacent society.

What is needed is a new Real Drag Racing sanctioning body. Started for racers by racers, if I had the money or support I would do it tomorrow.

[C and W Racing]

What is needed is a new Real Drag Racing sanctioning body. Started for racers by racers, if I had the money or support I would do it tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

Come on Jeff, you know you have the money. lol
Chuck

[DIAPERMAN]

Come on Chipmunk dig into that stash

[Bill Baer]

First of all I think there is need for a 7.90 class so to some extent I agree with Chris and I don’t see anything wrong with top dragster as it is.

“This would make people (also known as NHRA employees), (not to be confused with the guys working their asses off for minimum wage at the track) think, and make decisions. Not going to happen. Along with others (racers) who will stand in line to complain, any change hardly seems worth it in our complacent society”

Why should the NHRA change anything? They continually fill their quota for super classes at their national events and have even more super class cars at the divisional events?? As long as racers value Wallys more that money nothing will change.


“Again, eliminate the electronics, and we don't have this problem. And I am in FULL agreement with you, that the current method that people use to race their cars drives the fans away in droves. I'm sure I'm going to get flamed for that comment, as I can already see the "the problem is that the tracks don't educate the fans" rebuttals coming. Again, simple solution. Eliminate the electronics, create a 7.90 class, and competitors will start leaving the line at near full throttle again, and SOME of the fans will return (and believe me, I'm not naive enough to think that the .90 classes will EVER generate the fan interest that the nitro categories do)”.

I made the mistake of suggesting something similar a while back and you would have thought I had sexually assaulted someone’s mother!

“In Division 2, NHRA runs 10.0, 11.0 and 12.0 index classes along with Lucas Oil events. They are lots of fun and have essentially "Nostalgia Super Class" rules - no timers, no delay boxes, pro tree, heads up with a breakout. Those classes have a loyal following but won't grow rapidly unless they NHRA phases out the throttle stop classes. But they do attract new racers who have absolutely no interest in Super class racing and would not be spending their money and weekends at the racetrack otherwise.”

Super class racing before throttle stops, was more fun and [U]less expensive.[/U

]“So, all that said, am I going to lead the charge for the ban on all electronics? Absolutely not. I've relegated myself to the fact that these classes are NOT going to change in MY lifetime, and that if I want to race, I can either accept these classes the way they are and enjoy myself while I compete in them, or find other classes to race.”

I too have learned to accept these classes they way they are.

"My only hope is that at some point in time in the future people start to see the REAL issues with these classes, drop their own personal agendas, and work towards the betterment of the sport. But, that will be something my kids can
campaign for, as I'll be in a nursing home or dead by the time any of that happens".

I share this hope but I am not optimistic either

[Dave Steltz]

My .02...

Why would the NHRA even consider changing ? Plenty of guys in the .90 classes show up at each Div race (especially in D1)....

Changing the index's might be a nice thought, but until TS's are not allowed , then guys will still have big speed in slow classes (the guys who can afford it)..

Spectators ? Does anyone really think , that a Divisional level, spectators will all of a sudden start showing up to watch the .90 classes ? If the hosting track cant bring in spectators to watch Alcohol classes, TD and TS, snowmobiles, jets cars, wheelie cars, etc, will taking off the electronics of some of the classes all of a sudden swamp the spectator gates ?

At a national level, the same applies for spectators...they are not coming today to watch anything but the big boys, except for maybe a very small percentage of spectators...and last time I was at a national event, it was packed in pretty good with people...

Heads up ? Hmmm dont think so...Super Gas was never a heads up race, even way back when, guys were letting off or using a bolt stop of something, so its always been a bracket race, just with an even start at the line...and SC and SST just followed...

Even if we were to speed up the classes, you will still have guys with TS's, 9.0 guys will run in the 10.0 class etc...

Face it folks, small series and local events are where its at today for many of us, with the cost of traveling and entry fees, etc...I still like to run at a few Division races, just cause its more about the friends and getting to meet other racers, etc...

I think we all need to stop worrying about what the NHRA wants/gets and go RACE !!!

Have some fun !!!

OK Jason you're up !!!

[HR9121]

Two things I don't understand is why does everyone think the current system is broke when these classes continue to have the most cars in them and second I don't really care if there is soul in the stands, its not a parade and your not waving at the crowd going down the track. I don't care who's watching and hope the guy in the other lane ain't paying too close attention either. I'm a slow car at around 128 and the other guys can go 170 for all I care, I don't think there's an advantage either way because you can't tell me he can judge me any better than I can him. Heck most of the time I feel like I have the advantage I've had more trouble with cars closer to my speed than anyone else.

[Jeff Beckman]

Sorry Chris but I too dont see the need for change in the end I will adapt to whatever target we get.

Only if NHRA could profit from a change will we ever see one.

Plenty of cars show up to lay down rubber before the pros, and we buy that rubber and pay a majority of the insr and other related expense. We are Dumb Asses in this sense.

Fans come to see the circus, not you or me.

I could care less if anyone is in the stands, I am not John Force niether are you. Thats the wrong reason to race. Like Rock has said, knowing great friends from all over this great country is a very rewarding reason to race. Beating your pears who you know have game, bonus. Having FUN, the only reason to spend this money and work this hard. Others Hunt/Fish or play with balls (whatever) we do this.

Pay Out should be our only mutual platform for revision.

I feel like the Purse and only the purse is worthy of any big Change, not freakin OBAMANATION change either, its already a pathetic payout.

But hey, I cant let Jason Yak this much and not offer my 02!

Merry Christmas to you all, Jeff

[CBS]

Plus NHRA loves us.....we don't bitch.....they check for a helmet and let us race.....like Jeff said...the only thing to talk about is the payout.....

Rock Haas