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skills · 10-04-2011, 09:50 PM

So ken any ideas

Ryan Horensky · 10-04-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by clutch man

Looks like you already flushed it, with that 120 thousand dollar car that ur scared to race, oh yea and if glendora is skimming out of your wallet you might want to report it missing

This has to be the most ridiculous post I have ever seen. Joe makes a great point. Why would you go out and destroy a combo? Why would you comment how much he has in his car? Once again...It's his money! His stuff is fast and he can easily infraction. It's very easy for some people to say "run it out the back door" etc, etc, etc. You still have to pay for it when the horsepower committee meets. Maybe Joe doesn't want to spend more money to be in the same place he is now. That's just racing "smart" in my opinion.

Ken Miele · 10-04-2011, 10:20 PM

This idea would be for Stock and Super Stock. I would like to see NHRA treat s/ss as an asset and not a liability. In today's business climate, NHRA should take advantage of every market available, no matter how small.

Promoting us as the greatest muscle car show on earth. Not only do the cars look great but the run as good as they look. They do not need to promote us as they would the pros, but just a part of the whole experience of a National Event. Stock and Super Stock are the grassroots of drag racing, letting the fans know there is something for everyone when the came to the track is good for everyone.

I am not a promoter, but I'm sure the amount of resources it would take to do so, would be well within NHRA's budget.

james schaechter · 10-04-2011, 10:32 PM

There is interest and opportunity. There are good people at NHRA that love and support us, but it does not appear that the people making decisions are among them. If they are, we sure are not hearing from them.

That being said, we all have a responsibility to forward the support in any way we can. I would have known nothing about NHRA class racing were it not for Bob Gipson. He taught my brother and I to race and we took it from there.

We talk about the young kids not being interested? If we generalize about the Millineum Generation, they are all a bunch of texting, gaming stay at home import racer wannabees. That is not true for many of the kids. They want to know and then they take it from there.

NHRA Drag Racing is very popular, but it has always been a bit of a niche market. How were you introduced? I bet you were not in the majority in High School. There were more guys into Stock car Racing or not even into cars when I was in High School.

I know I didn't see it on TV, ever to get started. It was a racer and a science teacher showing the value of applied science. To stay in school. so that I could afford to race. Math and physics actually matter.To understand that book smart doesn't always equate to good results. Working together to solve a problem under challenging conditions. To have fun helping others at the track. To be the best you can be with what you have at that moment, on the line.

The point is, we can all make a difference. Even if it is one future racer at a time. That is how it is done. That is how it always been done.

I for one and going to have a good time. I plan on doing this for a long time. I think there is interest in Stock Superstock racing. I do what I can to help promote racing. We need to support the local tracks. If the tracks survive we can race. If NHRA goes to figure skating, we can still race. If there are no tracks, we are screwed. We need to find the voice of the track owners and fit into their business plan to survive.

I took a neighbor kid to Joliet Nats. He is 8 years old. He had a blast! I am quite sure he had never seen a Drag Pak or a 69 Camaro ever! He loved both. He met Tony Schumacher and Big Daddy. I think the hook is set. We can't expect NHRA or anyone else to spoonfeed the next generation of racers. Put your arm around some of these kids and show them what it is all about. That is where our next Gen of racers can come from if we try.

Ed Fernandez · 10-04-2011, 11:29 PM

Kenny,I'm sorry my opinions don't meet with your approval.It's just the way I see it through my old tired eyes.If I had the funds to have raced all year I would have been out there paying the fat fees NHRA charges.I'm sorry I can't be a blind cheerleader for the idiots out in Glendora.Like a blind squirrel every now and then they find a nut,
but most of the time they're scrambling around trying to find ways to pick our pockets.
If you take time to notice I aim my comments directly to the supposed leadership
of the association.I haven't other racers,though I disagreed with some and tried to give my point of view.
As usual you have the option of deleting my post.

Bob Emery · 10-04-2011, 11:32 PM

I couldn't resist commenting here....when I go to a National Event (Seattle, mostly) I'm always swimming upstream.......

The fuel cars are running, I'm headed to the porta pottie. Stock and Super Stock are running, I'm headed to my seat! I'd love to be out there racing, but you have all mentioned it, the price of admission for class racing is pretty high given today's economy.

Some day, though! Long live Stock and Super Stock!!!!

danny waters sr · 10-05-2011, 07:21 AM

If it's heads-up that seem to catch the eye of the "new generation", I would suggest running class eliminations in conjunction with the pros while the fans are still in their seats.
What better way to introduce S/SS to the croud. While running class they have the oportunity to explain the S/SS classes and let them know how elminations will be done later in the day...Most of the time when pros are done running the anouncers usually tell the fans to go on down to the pro pits and get you an autograph , pics, or t-shirt , instead of capturing their interest in other classes.....Just needs a little pr work....I for one have been around drag racing all my life and know it has to change as well as a lot of other things,but it is hard to accept,I am just tooooo old school i guess...Money is the biggest obstical i have to run at all these events.. I can assure you if i won the lottery you would get tired of seeing me at these races,,,lol...

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james schaechter · 10-05-2011, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by danny waters sr

If it's heads-up that seem to catch the eye of the "new generation", I would suggest running class eliminations in conjunction with the pros while the fans are still in their seats.
What better way to introduce S/SS to the croud. While running class they have the oportunity to explain the S/SS classes and let them know how elminations will be done later in the day...Most of the time when pros are done running the anouncers usually tell the fans to go on down to the pro pits and get you an autograph , pics, or t-shirt , instead of capturing their interest in other classes.....Just needs a little pr work....I for one have been around drag racing all my life and know it has to change as well as a lot of other things,but it is hard to accept,I am just tooooo old school i guess...Money is the biggest obstical i have to run at all these events.. I can assure you if i won the lottery you would get tired of seeing me at these races,,,lol...

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Good idea. If they wanted to highlight the DP, CJ and if Chevy? FX type cars heads up 8 car fields or something that would show heads up sportsman racing that would be very easy to sell from a marketing standpoint. Of course, someone would first have to explain this to the marketing department in small words, maybe in their language ( I mean powerpoint)

I doubt if they know the difference between Comp and SuperComp let along Stock and Superstock.

Ken Miele · 10-05-2011, 07:52 AM

Ed, I don’t know were it says in my post that your opinion does not meet with my approval. You have every right to feel as you do, I'm just pointing out my opinion on the hand full of members on Class Racer that have been predicting the demise of class racing.

Your posts are mostly negative, but that's your choice. I for one like to look at the positive. Yes its expensive to race, and I like anyone else could be parked tomorrow if the funds were not there.

You constantly rip NHRA and upper management, stop worrying about things you can not control.

Ed, why would I remove your post? you have an opinion, and that's fine. If you post irrelevant pictures or start babbling about politics on the s/ss section, well that's a different story.

Terry Cain · 10-05-2011, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter

Good idea. If they wanted to highlight the DP, CJ and if Chevy? FX type cars heads up 8 car fields or something that would show heads up sportsman racing that would be very easy to sell from a marketing standpoint. Of course, someone would first have to explain this to the marketing department in small words, maybe in their language ( I mean powerpoint)

I doubt if they know the difference between Comp and SuperComp let along Stock and Superstock.

I agree. Maybe a class of the faster S/SS cars and then a class of the slower cars as well.
Get Frey to explain it.

10-04-2011, 09:50 PM	#41
skills Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hershey,pa Posts: 187 Likes: 0 Liked 8 Times in 1 Post	Re: Nhra So ken any ideas

10-04-2011, 10:20 PM	#43
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,861 Likes: 456 Liked 16,554 Times in 1,522 Posts	Re: Nhra This idea would be for Stock and Super Stock. I would like to see NHRA treat s/ss as an asset and not a liability. In today's business climate, NHRA should take advantage of every market available, no matter how small. Promoting us as the greatest muscle car show on earth. Not only do the cars look great but the run as good as they look. They do not need to promote us as they would the pros, but just a part of the whole experience of a National Event. Stock and Super Stock are the grassroots of drag racing, letting the fans know there is something for everyone when the came to the track is good for everyone. I am not a promoter, but I'm sure the amount of resources it would take to do so, would be well within NHRA's budget.

10-04-2011, 10:32 PM	#44
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,988 Likes: 1,282 Liked 1,428 Times in 296 Posts	Re: Nhra There is interest and opportunity. There are good people at NHRA that love and support us, but it does not appear that the people making decisions are among them. If they are, we sure are not hearing from them. That being said, we all have a responsibility to forward the support in any way we can. I would have known nothing about NHRA class racing were it not for Bob Gipson. He taught my brother and I to race and we took it from there. We talk about the young kids not being interested? If we generalize about the Millineum Generation, they are all a bunch of texting, gaming stay at home import racer wannabees. That is not true for many of the kids. They want to know and then they take it from there. NHRA Drag Racing is very popular, but it has always been a bit of a niche market. How were you introduced? I bet you were not in the majority in High School. There were more guys into Stock car Racing or not even into cars when I was in High School. I know I didn't see it on TV, ever to get started. It was a racer and a science teacher showing the value of applied science. To stay in school. so that I could afford to race. Math and physics actually matter.To understand that book smart doesn't always equate to good results. Working together to solve a problem under challenging conditions. To have fun helping others at the track. To be the best you can be with what you have at that moment, on the line. The point is, we can all make a difference. Even if it is one future racer at a time. That is how it is done. That is how it always been done. I for one and going to have a good time. I plan on doing this for a long time. I think there is interest in Stock Superstock racing. I do what I can to help promote racing. We need to support the local tracks. If the tracks survive we can race. If NHRA goes to figure skating, we can still race. If there are no tracks, we are screwed. We need to find the voice of the track owners and fit into their business plan to survive. I took a neighbor kid to Joliet Nats. He is 8 years old. He had a blast! I am quite sure he had never seen a Drag Pak or a 69 Camaro ever! He loved both. He met Tony Schumacher and Big Daddy. I think the hook is set. We can't expect NHRA or anyone else to spoonfeed the next generation of racers. Put your arm around some of these kids and show them what it is all about. That is where our next Gen of racers can come from if we try. __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK Last edited by james schaechter; 10-04-2011 at 10:40 PM.

10-04-2011, 11:29 PM	#45
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Nhra Kenny,I'm sorry my opinions don't meet with your approval.It's just the way I see it through my old tired eyes.If I had the funds to have raced all year I would have been out there paying the fat fees NHRA charges.I'm sorry I can't be a blind cheerleader for the idiots out in Glendora.Like a blind squirrel every now and then they find a nut, but most of the time they're scrambling around trying to find ways to pick our pockets. If you take time to notice I aim my comments directly to the supposed leadership of the association.I haven't other racers,though I disagreed with some and tried to give my point of view. As usual you have the option of deleting my post. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

10-04-2011, 11:32 PM	#46
Bob Emery Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marysville, WA Posts: 90 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nhra I couldn't resist commenting here....when I go to a National Event (Seattle, mostly) I'm always swimming upstream....... The fuel cars are running, I'm headed to the porta pottie. Stock and Super Stock are running, I'm headed to my seat! I'd love to be out there racing, but you have all mentioned it, the price of admission for class racing is pretty high given today's economy. Some day, though! Long live Stock and Super Stock!!!!

10-05-2011, 07:21 AM	#47
danny waters sr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: lagrange,nc Posts: 2,224 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nhra If it's heads-up that seem to catch the eye of the "new generation", I would suggest running class eliminations in conjunction with the pros while the fans are still in their seats. What better way to introduce S/SS to the croud. While running class they have the oportunity to explain the S/SS classes and let them know how elminations will be done later in the day...Most of the time when pros are done running the anouncers usually tell the fans to go on down to the pro pits and get you an autograph , pics, or t-shirt , instead of capturing their interest in other classes.....Just needs a little pr work....I for one have been around drag racing all my life and know it has to change as well as a lot of other things,but it is hard to accept,I am just tooooo old school i guess...Money is the biggest obstical i have to run at all these events.. I can assure you if i won the lottery you would get tired of seeing me at these races,,,lol... , __________________ Danny Waters, Sr / 73 Duster "340"

10-05-2011, 07:52 AM	#49
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,861 Likes: 456 Liked 16,554 Times in 1,522 Posts	Re: Nhra Ed, I don’t know were it says in my post that your opinion does not meet with my approval. You have every right to feel as you do, I'm just pointing out my opinion on the hand full of members on Class Racer that have been predicting the demise of class racing. Your posts are mostly negative, but that's your choice. I for one like to look at the positive. Yes its expensive to race, and I like anyone else could be parked tomorrow if the funds were not there. You constantly rip NHRA and upper management, stop worrying about things you can not control. Ed, why would I remove your post? you have an opinion, and that's fine. If you post irrelevant pictures or start babbling about politics on the s/ss section, well that's a different story.