2012 Boss 302 in NHRA Stock Eliminator

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Spoken like a ture no name key board racer ralph.
I never said Parson and Myers were not one of the best in the game. Greg and Andrew just were beating up on my eng builder.

Your right ralph have been racing in Stock for over 10 years and going to racers for over 20 but I still have not paid my dues. But yet I never see your name on the sheets?

Chuck D still racing on line and on the track.

I was most certainly not beating up on your engine builder, it just seems like many of the engines he builds for the new cars are not built to their full potential because they don't need to be to go fast. Look at Chris' own car, he only went .86 under in the class final Indy, and I'm sure that's not because the potential to go fast isn't there. It's barely faster than he went in stock last year. What I am saying is that if you take one of these new motors and built it like the really fast guys' motors in stock or super stock (which lots of different engine builders, including Holbrook, can do), they will be faster than they are currently running.

[lstanford]

You guys have pretty much beat the hide off this horse. Build one or race against one or stay home and pout. On the other hand if this thread could pick up some speed we could drill down through the center of China.

[dwydendorf]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill

I was most certainly not beating up on your engine builder, it just seems like many of the engines he builds for the new cars are not built to their full potential because they don't need to be to go fast. Look at Chris' own car, he only went .86 under in the class final Indy, and I'm sure that's not because the potential to go fast isn't there. It's barely faster than he went in stock last year. What I am saying is that if you take one of these new motors and built it like the really fast guys' motors in stock or super stock (which lots of different engine builders, including Holbrook, can do), they will be faster than they are currently running.

Maybe Chris was doing the same thing you were at Columbus. He might have been on the brakes to keep from going too fast just like you did. You only went 105 miles per hour in the class semifinal. You think anyone didn't notice that? Could it be that you didn't want to trigger a AHFS hit?

[JHeath]

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

Pro Stock is not same! How many NHRA races did he win? IHRA is a lot easier than the 500 CID. Don't knock the old line Engine Builder's they paid their dues! Unlike Charile Boob!

OK, Ralph,I would think most IHRA Pro Stock racers would dispute your comment about IHRA being a lot easier, I think Holbrook won 5 races and the IHRA Pro Stock championship in 1999, what have you done???

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by dwydendorf

Maybe Chris was doing the same thing you were at Columbus. He might have been on the brakes to keep from going too fast just like you did. You only went 105 miles per hour in the class semifinal. You think anyone didn't notice that? Could it be that you didn't want to trigger a AHFS hit?

Well that's pretty obvious I would think, I was on a single, didn't want to trigger it twice at one race. I'm just wondering why he was only running mid .80s under (at 134 mph) at class in Indy. You would think he would at least set up for close to 1.00 under if he could, it is Indy after all.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by JHeath

OK, Ralph,I would think most IHRA Pro Stock racers would dispute your comment about IHRA being a lot easier, I think Holbrook won 5 races and the IHRA Pro Stock championship in 1999, what have you done???

Jerry, they might dispute it until they come over and try to compete using the same engine builder. How many have been able to pull it off?

[Wayne Kerr]

Yes the new cars are underfactored.
What most "Old School" guys don't understand is that the new engines are way closer to their maximum potential from the factory. Racing technology helps improve production technology, correct?
The stock piston rings in a supercharged CJ are 1.5mm, 1.5mm and 2.5mm with a plasma moly top ring and a napier second. The pistons are from Mahle and are anodized and have skirt coating. This is better technology than NASCAR had in the 90's.

Hope this helps.
See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

[dwydendorf]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill

Well that's pretty obvious I would think, I was on a single, didn't want to trigger it twice at one race. I'm just wondering why he was only running mid .80s under (at 134 mph) at class in Indy. You would think he would at least set up for close to 1.00 under if he could, it is Indy after all.

Sorry I meant to say first round, but you were on the brakes every round of class and you are not showing your potential either, so don't rip everyone else for the same thing you are doing.

[Andrew Hill]

Originally Posted by dwydendorf

Sorry I meant to say first round, but you were on the brakes every round of class and you are not showing your potential either, so don't rip everyone else for the same thing you are doing.

But .86 under is a long way from 1.00 under without lifting, and the car should run more than 1.00 under, I guess I just don't get the point of not trying to win class when the potential is there. I had nothing left for every run in class, I was going to win if I could, I just didn't have to go 1.00 under multiple times.

[CBS]

Andrew.....if I remember correctly.....Chris was chasing a gremlin at Indy.....I'm sure he would have gone a little faster otherwise....


Nice job last weekend in class.....

Rock