2012 Boss 302 in NHRA Stock Eliminator

[RJ Sledge]

Jody

Yeah, I had a car like that once.....showroom stock 390 Mustang, 3.25 R/E with equa-loc, It was a dog, ran some 15.50 at Carlsbad Raceway in California in late 1966. I realize not all the 5.0's cars have the same performance, just like my 15.50 390 Mustang. All I am saying is what he told me, he could have had a air box (what the hell is that?), I looked under his hood and it all looked original to me.

What I am saying is this, the 5.0 is a 10.50 and better car running D/S or D/SA at 3220 lbs with about 10 or 12 items changed, gears, headers, camshafts, springs, suspension mods for Stock Elim, transmission and convertor/clutch and take out 400 to 500 lbs . You don't need to go any deeper into the engine than the cams and springs, etc. and you could have a car that will out run 98% of the Stock D/S and D/SA cars out there. They have a cast type piston in the 2011 factory version and 11-1 compression, smaller camshaft and Ford rates that motor at 412, while the NHRA version rated at 325 hp has 12.5-1 compression and a bit more lift and any valve spring. In other words, they will make an honest 550 hp with just simple add ons and that adds up to 10.50's or better running D at 3220.

I am a Ford person, but these New cars that are so underrated is pure BS, and I am talking about all makes and models. This is the problem with Stock as the majority see it, and if it contiunes it will spell the end for a lot of competitors. You would think that NHRA realizes it and does not see it as a problem.

RJ

[troublemaker427]

I agree with you RJ, I think the new cars are great and I'd have a CJ in a heartbeat if I could but NHRA needs to give them their own class (call it A/FX, B/FX, etc.). It appears Div.1 is trying something at the Dutch but I don't hear much about it. Last I checked there was only 4 or 5 CJ & DP's signed up. It appears to be a pre-entry only type deal.

Originally Posted by R J Sledge

Jody

Yeah, I had a car like that once.....showroom stock 390 Mustang, 3.25 R/E with equa-loc, It was a dog, ran some 15.50 at Carlsbad Raceway in California in late 1966. I realize not all the 5.0's cars have the same performance, just like my 15.50 390 Mustang. All I am saying is what he told me, he could have had a air box (what the hell if that?), I looked under his hood and it all looked original to me.

What I am saying is this, the 5.0 is a 10.50 and better car running D/S or D/SA at 3220 lbs with about 10 or 12 items changed, gears, headers camshafts, springs, suspension mods for Stock Elim, transmission and convertor/clutch and take out 400 to 500 lbs . You don't need to go any deeper into the engine than the cams and springs, etc. and you could have a car that will out run 98% of the Stock D/S and D/SA cars out there. They have a cast type piston in the 2011 factory version and 11-1 compression, smaller camshaft and Ford rates that motor at 412, while the NHRA version rated at 325 hp has 12.5-1 compression and quite a bit more lift and any valve spring. In other words, they will make an honest 550 hp with just simple add ons and that adds up to 10.50's or better running D at 3220.

I am a Ford person, but these New cars that are so underrated is pure BS, and I am talking about all makes and models. This is the problem with Stock as the majority see it, and if it contiunes it will spell the end for a lot of competitors. You would think that NHRA realizes it and does not see it as a problem.

RJ

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by troublemaker427

I agree with you RJ, I think the new cars are great and I'd have a CJ in a heartbeat if I could but NHRA needs to give them their own class (call it A/FX, B/FX, etc.). It appears Div.1 is trying something at the Dutch but I don't hear much about it. Last I checked there was only 4 or 5 CJ & DP's signed up. It appears to be a pre-entry only type deal.

Most likely they are afraid of an equal heads up race and/or showing their true potential. They would rather beat up on the older over rated cars. LOL

[Greg Hill]

Charley, not to pick on you, but look what good engine builders do with all these new cars. Barton going 9.60's in A at Indy and Keith Lynch and David's 5.7 hemi has had over 100 hp added to it and it was still far and away the fastest A car at Columbus. You don't think Jim Kuntz could have that 5.0 Mustang of Jimmy's running 10.0's or even 9's. There's been enough history already to see how this all plays out.

[Charley Downing]

Your right Greg and Andrew
Holbrook who has worked on prostockers has no clue what he is doing.
I forgot Parson and Myers is the only engine bulid that can make HP.

Looking forword to racing you next year with our new 2013 CJ 302ci in D/SA and this one has the Boss intake.

You guys really think the red car Jimmy drove last week can't run low 10's has it sets?

[junior barns]

Oh, they know it can Charley, I think that is there point. When the wrenches get turned on this combo it will out run most cars from A to D!!

Boy I'm glad I quit this !

[BlueOval Ralph]

Pro Stock is not same! How many NHRA races did he win? IHRA is a lot easier than the 500 CID. Don't knock the old line Engine Builder's they paid their dues! Unlike Charile Boob!

[Greg Hill]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Your right Greg and Andrew
Holbrook who has worked on prostockers has no clue what he is doing.
I forgot Parson and Myers is the only engine bulid that can make HP.

Looking forword to racing you next year with our new 2013 CJ 302ci in D/SA and this one has the Boss intake.

You guys really think the red car Jimmy drove last week can't run low 10's has it sets?

Charley, you just made my point.