Hand Brake - Page 2

Chris Williams · 09-19-2011, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley

Let me drive it one time and ill take the virgin out of it, will put two equal flat spots on your rubber, and two nice long black streaks!

I don't think I said that one COULDN'T, I said we hadn't.

It's no where near as touchy as people keep implying.

CBS · 09-19-2011, 10:06 PM

I always had 4 on my dragsters.....wouldn't have it any other way.....

But Mickey knows how to use the brakes......for sure.....lol

Bill Baer · 09-20-2011, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley

Let me drive it one time and ill take the virgin out of it, will put two equal flat spots on your rubber, and two nice long black streaks!

He does sound like a man of experience!

Mackie Family Racing · 09-20-2011, 11:56 AM

Rock et al,

as I rocketed thru the top end at Maple Grove a couple of years back at the Dutch, on my quickest, fastest (and last) single-stage NOS pass on my old Top Dragster (6.71 @ 203mph), I sure wished I had a second set of brakes to fall back on... a caliper mounting bracket bolt had sheared off, the caliper spun around and tore off the brake lines to my single system. Threw both chutes, but had no brakes at all. I was fortunate enough to walk away, but the car was a write-off. Not sure I understand the all the downsides of a double system and/or a handbrake, but I can certainly speak to what happens when you don't have 'em in a dragster...

See you tomorrow in Columbus

srm

CBS · 09-20-2011, 01:04 PM

I have been told of incidents like yours many times.....They (Actually one person) Has heartburn with the handbrake....I will try again to get it in front of the right people....for review....to everyone I've talked to...its been a no brainer....but the NHRA can't seem to see our point of view....But if we stay after them maybe we can get them to change it....

Rock

CBS · 09-20-2011, 01:18 PM

I have attached this thread to my latest note....(of course I cut out Mickey's comments...lol)
so lets see if we get a response.....

Rock...

Wade Mahaffey · 09-21-2011, 10:23 AM

If they don't want you using the secondary hand brake down track, they could put a breakable link on the hand brake. Then they could monitor if you used it or not, and you could have a secondary brake system if you need it for emergency situations. example: if your link is broken, your primary brake system better be broke as well or your out for the year. If you needed to stop the car with the hand brake, you pull off the track at the far end, and request an offical to investigate/confirm/document the incident to avoid any suspension. BUT DON'T DISCONNECT THE BRAKES!

Wade Mahaffey

Maverick · 09-21-2011, 12:23 PM

I know you guys want your hand brake. If you put in a third pedal like a clutch pedal and used the clutch pedal to operate a secondary brake system, would this be legal? Do top fuelers have a foot brake? Or do they just have a hand brake? Are they going to make this mandatory that all cars have to have a secondary brake system? Seems like the thing to do, that all cars need to have a backup brake system, in case of the unexpected. Just wondering.

billy leber · 09-21-2011, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick

I know you guys want your hand brake. If you put in a third pedal like a clutch pedal and used the clutch pedal to operate a secondary brake system, would this be legal? Do top fuelers have a foot brake? Or do they just have a hand brake? Are they going to make this mandatory that all cars have to have a secondary brake system? Seems like the thing to do, that all cars need to have a backup brake system, in case of the unexpected. Just wondering.

Can you have two systems if both are foot operated ? I am building a dragster and definately will have two brake systems. I realize room for two pedels would be tight but just think how you could stop with two feet Mickey !

Mickey Whaley · 09-21-2011, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy leber

can you have two systems if both are foot operated ? I am building a dragster and definately will have two brake systems. I realize room for two pedels would be tight but just think how you could stop with two feet mickey !

yaba daba dooooooooooooooooooo

09-19-2011, 10:06 PM	#12
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Hand Brake I always had 4 on my dragsters.....wouldn't have it any other way..... But Mickey knows how to use the brakes......for sure.....lol

09-20-2011, 11:56 AM	#14
Mackie Family Racing Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Milford, MI Posts: 179 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hand Brake Rock et al, as I rocketed thru the top end at Maple Grove a couple of years back at the Dutch, on my quickest, fastest (and last) single-stage NOS pass on my old Top Dragster (6.71 @ 203mph), I sure wished I had a second set of brakes to fall back on... a caliper mounting bracket bolt had sheared off, the caliper spun around and tore off the brake lines to my single system. Threw both chutes, but had no brakes at all. I was fortunate enough to walk away, but the car was a write-off. Not sure I understand the all the downsides of a double system and/or a handbrake, but I can certainly speak to what happens when you don't have 'em in a dragster... See you tomorrow in Columbus srm

09-20-2011, 01:04 PM	#15
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Hand Brake I have been told of incidents like yours many times.....They (Actually one person) Has heartburn with the handbrake....I will try again to get it in front of the right people....for review....to everyone I've talked to...its been a no brainer....but the NHRA can't seem to see our point of view....But if we stay after them maybe we can get them to change it.... Rock

09-20-2011, 01:18 PM	#16
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Hand Brake I have attached this thread to my latest note....(of course I cut out Mickey's comments...lol) so lets see if we get a response..... Rock...

09-21-2011, 10:23 AM	#17
Wade Mahaffey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 581 Likes: 0 Liked 18 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Hand Brake If they don't want you using the secondary hand brake down track, they could put a breakable link on the hand brake. Then they could monitor if you used it or not, and you could have a secondary brake system if you need it for emergency situations. example: if your link is broken, your primary brake system better be broke as well or your out for the year. If you needed to stop the car with the hand brake, you pull off the track at the far end, and request an offical to investigate/confirm/document the incident to avoid any suspension. BUT DON'T DISCONNECT THE BRAKES! Wade Mahaffey

09-21-2011, 12:23 PM	#18
Maverick Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 299 Likes: 3 Liked 36 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Hand Brake I know you guys want your hand brake. If you put in a third pedal like a clutch pedal and used the clutch pedal to operate a secondary brake system, would this be legal? Do top fuelers have a foot brake? Or do they just have a hand brake? Are they going to make this mandatory that all cars have to have a secondary brake system? Seems like the thing to do, that all cars need to have a backup brake system, in case of the unexpected. Just wondering.