Class At Indy

Jack Matyas · 07-16-2011, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Jack,
I'm glad you have enjoyed the first 30 months of these cars without a heads up. How many of them are in your class? You could have seen the tail end of these new cars from your AA/SA car. What ever happened to it? And you certainly have no idea who you're talking about when you say I would take one of these new cars in a heartbeat. Talk Kershaw into offering me one. Then you will find out just how deep this problem runs for many of us.

Jeff,
More of your authentic gibberish. You have been saying for nearly two years that Chevy is coming out to play and that everything will be better when they do. For many of us, you are wrong on both counts. Both CJ's and Mopar cars are showing up on ebay and other auctions for asking prices below their original sales price and they still aren't selling.

But neither one of you answered my question. How have these new cars improved Stock and Super Stock for the average racer. No gibberish, just point out to all of us here how the category has improved without all the rah rah stuff.

Thanks

Bruce - You ask where my AA/SA car is - I'll tell you - its in B/SA - where its a better car .Its very simple - I was overpowered - but I didn't become bitter and I didn't sit home and stew about it - I just changed class and raced - and having the time of my life thank you .Things change and sometimes we must change with them or because of them .Didn't you build a AA/SA car ? What became of it ? This weekend here at Super Chevy we 're having a nice time with the Stock - S/S combo race where there are no CJ's or Mopars .You could be here but choose not to .........

As for what the new cars have done for the sport or me its very easy to say - during my almost forty years with this sport I've never seen so much attention paid to our class - and never ever has the media or even the NHRA paid as much attention to us as they do now -- and that can't be a bad thing no matter how you twist it . Period .No rah-rah stuff - just the truth .And the fact that I don't have an agenda for myself only .........

Bruce Noland · 07-16-2011, 11:17 PM

Jack,
Can you please tell me what all this "attention" is doing for the racers? Something tangible please.

Jack Matyas · 07-16-2011, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Jack,
Can you please tell me what all this "attention" is doing for the racers? Something tangible please.

Attention is something we all seek - you chased it while trying to qualify high at a National event - or trying to win class at again a National event - or setting a National Record - or even when you were trying to win Jr.Stock at National Opens ....................And probably the reason you built a AA/SA car . Attention is human nature - admit it - we all want it .And if you weren't doing it for attention the only other thing is you were doing it for the money ........and you didn't get very much .

Bruce Noland · 07-16-2011, 11:42 PM

The new cars are bringing attention to me, the average racer. And for this reason they enhance my racing experience? Naw, I don't think so. BTW, this discussion isn't about me. It's about the new cars.

Ron Ortiz · 07-17-2011, 12:29 AM

Why don't you all stop this nonsense. There is no such thing as "class win" at Indy anymore. First of all they take the quickest amount of qualifiers, bogus or not.

They may run "class eliminations" but with the current factoring system and newer car production HP ratings, this seems to be somewhat of a farce.

If there was ever a time to bring in the "imports" into Stock, now is the time. Talk about bringing in new blood.

If they let it really hang out, you could easily see a 1.50 under average.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA no other comments necessary

Dick Butler · 07-17-2011, 08:01 AM

Havent read the whole thread but.....New cars have opened the "option" to buy a current car ready to race. Given the fans a current car to watch. Given the factory a place to show off and appeal to fans with current cars. Given NHRA a factory connection again. Given the racers a series of lesser factored motors to make them really competitive "day One".
The main thing they give is the "OPTION" to change your program, upgrade the technology.
There are negatives too.

bigshow2966 · 07-17-2011, 08:57 AM

The new cars definitely helped Sorensen and Fletcher because the keyboard cowboys aren't whining about them cheating all the time anymore.

Jimi B · 07-18-2011, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

Why don't you all stop this nonsense. There is no such thing as "class win" at Indy anymore. First of all they take the quickest amount of qualifiers, bogus or not.

They may run "class eliminations" but with the current factoring system and newer car production HP ratings, this seems to be somewhat of a farce.

If there was ever a time to bring in the "imports" into Stock, now is the time. Talk about bringing in new blood.

If they let it really hang out, you could easily see a 1.50 under average.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA no other comments necessary

Thats exactly what I am doing. Im lucky my car is also badged as a Plymouth and Eagle instead of just a Mitsubishi.

07-16-2011, 11:17 PM	#2
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Class At Indy Jack, Can you please tell me what all this "attention" is doing for the racers? Something tangible please. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

07-16-2011, 11:42 PM	#4
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Class At Indy The new cars are bringing attention to me, the average racer. And for this reason they enhance my racing experience? Naw, I don't think so. BTW, this discussion isn't about me. It's about the new cars. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

07-17-2011, 12:29 AM	#5
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 990 Likes: 36 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Class At Indy Why don't you all stop this nonsense. There is no such thing as "class win" at Indy anymore. First of all they take the quickest amount of qualifiers, bogus or not. They may run "class eliminations" but with the current factoring system and newer car production HP ratings, this seems to be somewhat of a farce. If there was ever a time to bring in the "imports" into Stock, now is the time. Talk about bringing in new blood. If they let it really hang out, you could easily see a 1.50 under average. Ron Ortiz U/SA no other comments necessary __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

07-17-2011, 08:01 AM	#6
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Class At Indy Havent read the whole thread but.....New cars have opened the "option" to buy a current car ready to race. Given the fans a current car to watch. Given the factory a place to show off and appeal to fans with current cars. Given NHRA a factory connection again. Given the racers a series of lesser factored motors to make them really competitive "day One". The main thing they give is the "OPTION" to change your program, upgrade the technology. There are negatives too.

07-17-2011, 08:57 AM	#7
bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 656 Likes: 679 Liked 181 Times in 56 Posts	Re: Class At Indy The new cars definitely helped Sorensen and Fletcher because the keyboard cowboys aren't whining about them cheating all the time anymore.