Track is making up rules

[Dinsdale]

Are you kidding!! I'm not going to suffer the wrath of Terry LOL! Besides, you've done a good job of explaining how this came about there it's just that some choose to ignore facts. Hopefully this will get sorted out soon and no ones feelings get hurt too badly.

[Phillip marvetz]

Chicken...LOL


Can I bring the Hemi up for the Ford drags again this year? Crossram should be here tomorrow, yeehaw


I'll promise to dial within the E.T Breaks. . . . Or real close to them

[cicero819]

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz

I know this is a bracket race problem but just wanted to put it out here for all to see and get your feed back.

My home track has decided to make up a rule about breakouts.

"As of July 9th, MRP will be following the rules for breakouts as are printed in the NHRA 2011 rulebook on Page 6, with the following exception. This rule will apply to all Bracket Catagories. If a competitor breaks out of his posted index, he will be warned the first time and will be disqualified the second time. This warning will apply for the year, not for each individual race."

The head of tech thinks that the rule for the .90 class cars should apply to the brackets cars also and has rammed this down our throats.


I have been fighting the good fight on this one trying to make them see how the rule does not apply to bracket cars but have not gotten them to back down yet. It's on the team forum at www.teammission.com if any one has any input.

Phillip, please read your post again, you've asked for some feedback and people have obliged. You might not like what you're hearing but you're getting feedback, plus you're receiving quality answer from one of the most respected Bracket Racer and writer in the Drag Racing community in Bret Kepner. I would listen to what he has to say if he gaved me his opinion I would be listening, he's definitely not a smarty pants. We all understand your problem, you have to just figure who has the bigger stick at the end.Claude Ruel

[Phillip marvetz]

Thanks for your input Claude,
I'm sure Bret knows I was smiling when I typed that.
So far I have received the feed back I expected from the racers on this forum, Everyone's opinion is different but for the most part our fellow racers agree a track should not do stuff like this.
This rule was put into place by 2 people without the input, consent or approval of the car club that owns the track and I'm hoping that once the club members realize how many racers feel this is wrong they will take appropriate action. That's about all the democracy I can ask for.

P.S, I think it's working..................

[Dinsdale]

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz

Chicken...LOL


Can I bring the Hemi up for the Ford drags again this year? Crossram should be here tomorrow, yeehaw


I'll promise to dial within the E.T Breaks. . . . Or real close to them

Yup, you and that young fellow Dave Wren are invited and I promise not to change the rules that weekend if a couple of Mopar's happen to be doing well.

[n5ifi]

I find it shocking that so many of you guys don't know what you are talking about.
The way it is. The way it has always been.
In a 12 flat to 13.99 class, (Call it PRO) No Car can DIAL quicker than 12.00 flat.
The car could be capable of running 10.99 and provided it meets all of the requirements to go that quick/fast and meets all the requirements of the 12 to 13.99 class,(like DOT legal tires only or no back half cars, or chassis cars, no dragsters allowed) It could legally run under the index, it just can't DIAL under the index.
As a track owner I would simply ban any electronics or throttle stops (except mechanical stops) and be done with it.
In this case the guy is running right on the index and as the air gets better he is capable of going under the index. No big deal. He cannot DIAL quicker than 12 flat and as long as he meets any and all the rules to go quicker than 12 flat he is legal to run under the index without fault.

[Phillip marvetz]

It seems personal feelings and beliefs sometimes get in the way of the rule book. I hope this thread has given some of you reason to reflect on how the tracks near you do things and why they do them that way.



Thank you to all whom contributed, I appreciate your input.

[Dinsdale]

Democracy in action eh? Of course the other option was to roll over and accept a bad ruling. MRP is one track that actually listens and cares about their racers so I think they will make things right.

[Dave Jung]

And they did. Rule not going into effect at MRP.

[rognelson777]

Originally Posted by n5ifi

I find it shocking that so many of you guys don't know what you are talking about.
The way it is. The way it has always been.
In a 12 flat to 13.99 class, (Call it PRO) No Car can DIAL quicker than 12.00 flat.
The car could be capable of running 10.99 and provided it meets all of the requirements to go that quick/fast and meets all the requirements of the 12 to 13.99 class,(like DOT legal tires only or no back half cars, or chassis cars, no dragsters allowed) It could legally run under the index, it just can't DIAL under the index.
As a track owner I would simply ban any electronics or throttle stops (except mechanical stops) and be done with it.
In this case the guy is running right on the index and as the air gets better he is capable of going under the index. No big deal. He cannot DIAL quicker than 12 flat and as long as he meets any and all the rules to go quicker than 12 flat he is legal to run under the index without fault.

The last line says it all, as long as car is certified to run faster than the dial.

I think the first thing you should do is ask the people who put the rule into place and find out why they are doing, maybe they will answer your question.

our local track tech guys are great (atco raceway) and will clarify any questions.