Track is making up rules

Ed Fernandez · 07-12-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by larry dowty

DON i get it i just dont think you should be able to go faster than 12.00 in sportsman PERIOD

That's all well and fine,but let's put it into perspective of S/SS racing.I don't think guys should click it at 1000'.I don't see anybody looking to change that sceneario.Just saying.

Toby Lang · 07-12-2011, 09:52 PM

If they will let you dial 12.00 they have to give you some allowance to breakout.

I have an idea. Why don't they change the rule to say if you run faster than 11.90 you are DQ'd after one warning? Or if they are so concerned about cars running in the 11s, make the minimum dial 12.10 and a DQ for anything under 12.00.

What do you think about that, Phil?

-Toby

Dinsdale · 07-13-2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby Lang

If they will let you dial 12.00 they have to give you some allowance to breakout.

I have an idea. Why don't they change the rule to say if you run faster than 11.90 you are DQ'd after one warning? Or if they are so concerned about cars running in the 11s, make the minimum dial 12.10 and a DQ for anything under 12.00.

What do you think about that, Phil?

-Toby

That's what I was thinking since I believe the intent is to prevent 11.50 cars from running in a 12.00 bracket. Tossing someone for going 11.99 is nuts. It is the tracks perogative to set rules as they see fit but quoting a rule from another class to justify a bad decision is also BS. This wasn't a track management decision BTW but something the head tech guy and race director came up with at the last event.

I don't race in this class but think those that do should have had some say before **** started hitting the fan. JMO!

Bret Kepner · 07-13-2011, 02:40 AM

As I posted earlier, there are plenty of tracks which pitch people for exceeding the class break. You guys are acting like this is the only place this has ever happened in the history of drag racing. The track makes the rules. Don't like it? Don't go.

Phillip marvetz · 07-13-2011, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bret Kepner

As I posted earlier, there are plenty of tracks which pitch people for exceeding the class break. You guys are acting like this is the only place this has ever happened in the history of drag racing. The track makes the rules. Don't like it? Don't go.

We don't have tracks in every county like you guys do back east, It's a long drive to go somewhere else around here and it's hard enough to put diesel in the truck as it is.

Dinsdale · 07-13-2011, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bret Kepner

As I posted earlier, there are plenty of tracks which pitch people for exceeding the class break. You guys are acting like this is the only place this has ever happened in the history of drag racing. The track makes the rules. Don't like it? Don't go.

Not so Bret... In this case it was a mid season decision that appears to be directed at a select couple of people and made by someone who may have an agenda. THAT is wrong. If it was a track policy and made clear at the beginning of the year, different story.

"Don't like it Don't go" C'mon.... let's all just roll over and take whatever someone in position decides what's best for the masses without any input or discussion.

Bret Kepner · 07-13-2011, 08:14 PM

Ahhh...I understand now. This was the first time in drag racing history in which a track changed rules in mid-season. Got it!

Luckily, a dragstrip is a democracy so you should have no problem overturning this ruling.

Phillip marvetz · 07-13-2011, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bret Kepner

Ahhh...I understand now. This was the first time in drag racing history in which a track changed rules in mid-season. Got it!

Luckily, a dragstrip is a democracy so you should have no problem overturning this ruling.

Smarty pants.

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Dinsdale · 07-13-2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bret Kepner

Ahhh...I understand now. This was the first time in drag racing history in which a track changed rules in mid-season. Got it!

Luckily, a dragstrip is a democracy so you should have no problem overturning this ruling.

You obviously don't understand... A rule change for safety reasons makes sense. A change made by a couple of people for reasons only they can justify is a matter worth arguing over. It's the way this rule came about that's problematic.

I do find it ironic that the person who is likely the foremost authority on defunct race tracks would suggest we "not go" when we feel something is unjust. How many of the now closed race tracks shut down due to bad management? Car counts are low enough without alienating customers (which racers are) and democracy or not, the track is a business that needs customers.

Bret Kepner · 07-18-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bret Kepner

Ahhh...I understand now. This was the first time in drag racing history in which a track changed rules in mid-season. Got it!

Luckily, a dragstrip is a democracy so you should have no problem overturning this ruling.

Actually, I WAS being a "smarty pants". LOL!

I understand why a racer would be upset with a rules change at mid-season. I also know of, (and race at), many tracks at which this particular deal is a non-issue. My post was only to clarify the original (poorly-worded) complaint and point out that, since many tracks DO toss people for clocking an E.T. under the "bottom break", (NOT just DIALING under it), one should be thankful to get away with it this long.

07-12-2011, 09:52 PM	#2
Toby Lang VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 2,133 Likes: 2 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Track is making up rules If they will let you dial 12.00 they have to give you some allowance to breakout. I have an idea. Why don't they change the rule to say if you run faster than 11.90 you are DQ'd after one warning? Or if they are so concerned about cars running in the 11s, make the minimum dial 12.10 and a DQ for anything under 12.00. What do you think about that, Phil? -Toby

07-13-2011, 02:40 AM	#4
Bret Kepner Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri, USA Posts: 418 Likes: 1 Liked 11 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Track is making up rules As I posted earlier, there are plenty of tracks which pitch people for exceeding the class break. You guys are acting like this is the only place this has ever happened in the history of drag racing. The track makes the rules. Don't like it? Don't go. __________________ Bret Kepner BRETKEPNER@Prodigy.net Saint Louis, Missouri, USA

07-13-2011, 08:14 PM	#7
Bret Kepner Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri, USA Posts: 418 Likes: 1 Liked 11 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Track is making up rules Ahhh...I understand now. This was the first time in drag racing history in which a track changed rules in mid-season. Got it! Luckily, a dragstrip is a democracy so you should have no problem overturning this ruling. __________________ Bret Kepner BRETKEPNER@Prodigy.net Saint Louis, Missouri, USA Last edited by Bret Kepner; 07-13-2011 at 08:16 PM.