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Old 06-29-2011, 02:49 PM   #1
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It would be FAR different if the manufacturers were building affordable, production street legal cars, but they're not. None of the big three is building a light weight semi stripped down under $30K high performance street car. They're building over weight, over loaded, over complicated $40K boat anchors. They could be building 3200-3400 pound cars with few options, less BS, and a far lower price. But they are not.


If this whole thing was getting 18-24 year-olds into $25K factory hot rods off the showroom floor, building a fan base and a participant base for the sport and the market, for the future, it would be a great thing. That's not happening, and it's not going to happen with the current structure.
In fairness, the Mustang is not far off from what you're asking for. My 2011 5.0 weighed 3500 and change as delivered, and it cost me $28k. I can't think of any other similar car in respect to weight and cost though.

I just don't understand why cars like this can't be in the guide. Instead nothing but the paper cars since 2008.
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Old 06-29-2011, 03:01 PM   #2
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In fairness, the Mustang is not far off from what you're asking for. My 2011 5.0 weighed 3500 and change as delivered, and it cost me $28k. I can't think of any other similar car in respect to weight and cost though.

I just don't understand why cars like this can't be in the guide. Instead nothing but the paper cars since 2008.
Ford does not WANT your car in the guide. They will not submit the specifications for it.

But we should be seeing $22K-$24K cars in the 3200#-3400# weight range. No power seats, no power locks, no power windows, no "blue tooth", no 17" to 20" wheels, no nonsense. The only thing you want is A/C, power steering, and power brakes, since you can't get a car financed without them.
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Old 06-29-2011, 03:28 PM   #3
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.... I just don't understand why cars like this can't be in the guide. Instead nothing but the paper cars since 2008.

I wonder why that is ?
A marketing strategy ?
And if so, was it designed so as to sell more CJs ?

Are they (Ford) afraid that the 2011 -2012 GT will hurt CJ sales ?
There is a huge difference between a CJ buyer and a GT buyer.

Personally, I would also like to see the '11-'12 V-6 Mustang compete in Stock. Now that would be cool.
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Maybe they are? As the Sales Data in Automotive News shows the Camaro is out selling the Mustangs again this year (and they don't even have a race package and not sure they can even build one like the CJ's) more interesting will be if Ford can continue building package cars if they shutter the Flat Rock Assembly plant. With Mazda pulling the plug on the Mazda 6 that plant is in real trouble. Ithas to build some where around 220,000 to break even, Mustang is not even close to those numbers (somewhere around 80,000 units) so only time will tell not sure that Ford has a Vehicle in the 120,000 units a year to move there.

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I wonder why that is ?
A marketing strategy ?
And if so, was it designed so as to sell more CJs ?

Are they (Ford) afraid that the 2011 -2012 GT will hurt CJ sales ?
There is a huge difference between a CJ buyer and a GT buyer.

Personally, I would also like to see the '11-'12 V-6 Mustang compete in Stock. Now that would be cool.
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