New Ford 5.0 On The Books

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by dwydendorf

Things in the Auto industry are much different today than they were in the Muscle car era. How many of you are still running a dual point distributor? How many of you listen to a radio that has vacuum tubes? How many of you still listen to the Radio? NHRA changed things because they realize that the new cars are their future and like it or not it is here to stay. Back in the 60's and early 70's did you think that people running model T Fords ( a forty year old car back then) were running something obsolete? I thought the 50 Olds and 56 Chevys were old back then. Would I still like to take my 70 Mustang to the U.S.Nationals and win class in Super Stock J again? Sure, but I realized over 15 years ago that those days were numbered and while I still could be competetive with that car in the eliminator, that other cars in the class were much more competetive. I am sure that the people who lost their jobs making vacuum tubes and dual point distributors were not happy to lose their jobs but times change. I still have my 70 Mustang and it still could be raced, but I built a replacement and have no plans to go backwards. All I am saying is either choose to replace what you have, or come to terms with the fact that maybe you may not be the fastest car in your class anymore because times have changed and you cannot control that.

There is NOTHING wrong with the new cars........Just get the HP factors corrected and put them where they should be. Thats 99% of the gripe !

[dwydendorf]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

There is NOTHING wrong with the new cars........Just get the HP factors corrected and put them where they should be. Thats 99% of the gripe !

The problem is that everyone complains about the new cars and their horsepower factors instead of complaining about the AHFS and the fact that is does not react quick enough to any underrated combination whether it is an old car or a new car. Again it is the system in place that needs to be straightened out not just the new cars but nobody directs their complaints to that.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by dwydendorf

The problem is that everyone complains about the new cars and their horsepower factors instead of complaining about the AHFS and the fact that is does not react quick enough to any underrated combination whether it is an old car or a new car. Again it is the system in place that needs to be straightened out not just the new cars but nobody directs their complaints to that.

I have before....the AHFS will NEVER work in its present form because of the game playing and 1000 ft shut off runs everyone is playing. Its not so much the system as it is the dummys who accepted the HP ratings to begin with no matter what they were and the non action of NHRA to do much of anything about it. They just dont seem to care about the guys who have supported them for so many years in the past and just want to cater to the money guys who can afford these new combos of the week.

[dwydendorf]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I have before....the AHFS will NEVER work in its present form because of the game playing and 1000 ft shut off runs everyone is playing. Its not so much the system as it is the dummys who accepted the HP ratings to begin with no matter what they were and the non action of NHRA to do much of anything about it. They just dont seem to care about the guys who have supported them for so many years in the past and just want to cater to the money guys who can afford these new combos of the week.

We have allready seen that there are enough big egos out there to get the horsepower factors in line but lower triggers and more reviews would make things happen faster.

[JRyan]

Al,
I'm with you. I'd love too see the new v-6 cars in the guide. I'd buy one for sure then. I still may eventually buy one. Those things are awesome.

Rick

[Paul Wong]

Alan your thinking with your mind not a 22 - 24 year old mind. They want to go fast with the 20" wheels, bluetooth and creature comforts. Hell most of them look at my antique muscle cars and cant figure out why i would use 15" wheels or lack fuel injection.

[novassdude]

Ford is building a lot of very cool Mustangs. It would be very cool if they actually put them in the book. There would be much less bitching if they did it that way instead of just paper combos as they seem fit.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Paul Wong

Alan your thinking with your mind not a 22 - 24 year old mind. They want to go fast with the 20" wheels, bluetooth and creature comforts. Hell most of them look at my antique muscle cars and cant figure out why i would use 15" wheels or lack fuel injection.

Actually, Paul, I was using my "accounting" mind, figuring where to take out weight and expense.

However, I do see your point. The counter point to that is that the people who think that way are never going to race hardcore enough to be in the markets we're talking about.

The object of the exercise that I'm talking about is a light, inexpensive, fast new car, off the showroom floor, much like the Chrysler program that produced the original Road Runner. A real "win on Sunday sell on Monday" car and program that the factories can take full advantage of.