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two day combo, $5K Saturday, $10K Sunday 30 47.62%
two day combo, two $5K races Saturday, one $5K Sunday 20 31.75%
three day combo, $5K races Friday, Saturday, and Sunday 7 11.11%
one day combo, $10K Saturday 6 9.52%
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:08 PM   #1
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I would not support a combo that was not open to ALL legal xHRA cars.
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:42 PM   #2
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I would not support a combo that was not open to ALL legal xHRA cars.
I guess really and truly that is the way i feel also. Sorry ..Still wish you luck and success.




All our combo races around here allow both HRA's and they all seem to like it.
Just wish we could have scales and fuel check for heads up around here .Maybe if it grows enough we can.
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:23 PM   #3
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Mike and Danny, it's too bad you feel that way. The Bowling Green combo series is run that way, and consistently draws 50 cars or more for a $50 entry fee and a guaranteed purse. They hold 5 or more races a year with excellent attendance.

Bowling Green does have scales and heads up racing. I'd say for the bigger money races we might even be able to get fuel checks and more exhaustive tech.

I myself am not anti IHRA, and I'm not terribly hung up on excluding IHRA classes. However, several regular attendees did complain that they felt some racers were using soft factors and soft indexes from IHRA to avoid possible heads up races and gain qualifying advantages. Given that Bowling Green is an NHRA track, the decision was made, with the support of the vast majority of racers, to run NHRA classes only. There had only been a couple of cars there that did not fit an NHRA class to begin with.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:06 PM   #4
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I am not anti either and you make a good point if you are in NHRA country with close sanctioned tracks.
Likewise i am in the hot bed of IHRA sanction tracks and may be why i am comfortable as you are in your area.
Not really softer indexes til NHRA took away their 3 tenths......
Who knows i may go to a race out your way one of these days....Looks like a 8 hour and more drive for me....
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Alan, Andrew and I would come to Jackson for a two or three race deal but it's just too far for a regular combo. From my shop in Jeffersonville it's probably 340-350 miles. We would also like Memphis for a bigger money deal.
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I would drive at least eight hours for that kind of payout.....Maybe farther. I am in Ark, so unless its way up north it shouldnt be too bad for me. If its anywhere in the midwest or south I will go.
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Alan with fuel prices what they are and working around our jobs a 2 day race with a maximun of 300 miles would make sense, now about the heads up and IHRA class cars, why don't we forget about heads up runs and let everyone run off their own dial in. The only stipulation would be that the cars are stock or super stock in their own sanctioning bodies. My $.02.
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Alan, Andrew and I would come to Jackson for a two or three race deal but it's just too far for a regular combo. From my shop in Jeffersonville it's probably 340-350 miles. We would also like Memphis for a bigger money deal.
Greg, I can understand and respect that. Although the Jackson deal pays $1K to win, almost as much as an LODRS race, for what is likely to be a 32 car or smaller field, in one day, being treated like a valued customer, with only a $50 entry fee. But you're right, it is twice the distance for you compared to the distance for us, making it a 6-7 hour tow. I do completely understand your reluctance to make the trip.


I cannot speak for what will happen at Memphis, I want to be VERY clear on that. I did hear that it would open in July some time. That is ALL I know.
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Alan, why not compromise and run off the "old" nhra indexes (current ihra indexes) but run nhra classes only. Sounds like that might help Danny and bring in some ihra cars that can't currently hit the nhra index (myself included). In the current cost-cutting economy, run 1/8th mile even at beech bend (less fuel and wear and tear). Lastly, 5-6 hour tow from So. In. would be my limit.
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Mike and Danny, it's too bad you feel that way. The Bowling Green combo series is run that way, and consistently draws 50 cars or more for a $50 entry fee and a guaranteed purse. They hold 5 or more races a year with excellent attendance.

Bowling Green does have scales and heads up racing. I'd say for the bigger money races we might even be able to get fuel checks and more exhaustive tech.

I myself am not anti IHRA, and I'm not terribly hung up on excluding IHRA classes. However, several regular attendees did complain that they felt some racers were using soft factors and soft indexes from IHRA to avoid possible heads up races and gain qualifying advantages. Given that Bowling Green is an NHRA track, the decision was made, with the support of the vast majority of racers, to run NHRA classes only. There had only been a couple of cars there that did not fit an NHRA class to begin with.
Alan, I wasn't meaning so much the softer Indexes/factors. I was referring to the IHRA-only classes (SS/Production, Stock/GT, Pure Stock and C/M Stock specifically--you could combine the Truck and EFI classes into regular Stock, ala NHRA). We have several of those that compete in our races. Last year at Hagerstown MD in November, we had fifty-five cars for the weekend. Nine of those were in the above mentioned IHRA sub-classes. I feel allowing any legal car that can compete in Stock or Super Stock, at an NHRA or IHRA event, should be welcomed at any events such as these. We don't have heads-ups in our series, but few, if any, would be switching classes just to avoid such a run. The SS/Production cars, I suppose, could cross over into SS/AS, SS/BS, etc (at a rules disadvantage). But the other sub-classes would be left out, which should not be the case for a good S/SS race for good money (Hagerstown is a $100 entry, $2,000 guaranteed race).
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