Where are the lower class cars?

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Mark - My dander is fine ..........And as you know I raced lower class cars for almost thirty years so I fully understand but its not the NHRA's fault either that racers started liking fast ( as in speed ) cars .And you're right - a slow class car can easily win the combo deal along with the pewter Wally and whatever money .

One last thing - a racer can run a late model LT1 FI combo in A - B - C - D for a lot less than your quarter mill budget . Just ask Santangelo or Simmons who are competing this weekend at Bristol .

Jack, I just found out that last years altitude correction factor was changed to emulate Competition Eliminators factor. If that's truly the case, then unless/until I come up with 5g's to upgrade my engine and change my cam to one with more duration, I may never run a altitude race at an NHRA event again, because my car won't run the number...if I was home, then I'd check the corrected index for DF/S and compare it to what it was last year (after NHRA's wonderful .3 reduction from 2009's factor). They're the ones choosing to make it harder for people like me who only ran .2-.4 under the index to be competitive nowadays, and this move just went over the top!

Well, thanks to IHRA, at least I have options for a couple of former NHRA altitude tracks...Salt Lake City, and Tucson!!!

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

If that's truly the case, then unless/until I come up with 5g's to upgrade my engine and change my cam to one with more duration, I may never run a altitude race at an NHRA event again, because my car won't run the number...

Gary, Is that with the new headers on the car?

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Gary, Is that with the new headers on the car?

Yes Mark that would allow me to include headers (once I find some that I can afford). So far, I've only heard of one place that would help me in that regard, and they wanted $1grand, and my car for a week...that was 4yrs ago, they're probably more now? But it would definitely include a new cam with some duration to it....

I wish I had some "new headers on the car"! That's funny Mark!

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Jack, I just found out that last years altitude correction factor was changed to emulate Competition Eliminators factor. If that's truly the case, then unless/until I come up with 5g's to upgrade my engine and change my cam to one with more duration, I may never run a altitude race at an NHRA event again, because my car won't run the number...if I was home, then I'd check the corrected index for DF/S and compare it to what it was last year (after NHRA's wonderful .3 reduction from 2009's factor). They're the ones choosing to make it harder for people like me who only ran .2-.4 under the index to be competitive nowadays, and this move just went over the top!

Well, thanks to IHRA, at least I have options for a couple of former NHRA altitude tracks...Salt Lake City, and Tucson!!!

Gary - I fully understand how you feel but the one thing you're forgetting is that in order to win the eliminator you don't need to run .9 under - all that is necessary is to go on the index ................And the .3 reduction was for everyone - so you're exactly where you were before .

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Gary - I fully understand how you feel but the one thing you're forgetting is that in order to win the eliminator you don't need to run .9 under - all that is necessary is to go on the index ................And the .3 reduction was for everyone - so you're exactly where you were before .

Point well made Jack, however if you're running that close to the index, and all of the sudden eliminations come with a (lets say) 10mph headwind, along with crappy air, suddenly you're either at or slower than your index, and thus your meager cushion of competitiveness is gone...advantage to all cars better than .4 under their indexes.

[The Hawk]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Jack, I just found out that last years altitude correction factor was changed to emulate Competition Eliminators factor. If that's truly the case, then unless/until I come up with 5g's to upgrade my engine and change my cam to one with more duration, I may never run a altitude race at an NHRA event again, because my car won't run the number...if I was home, then I'd check the corrected index for DF/S and compare it to what it was last year (after NHRA's wonderful .3 reduction from 2009's factor). They're the ones choosing to make it harder for people like me who only ran .2-.4 under the index to be competitive nowadays, and this move just went over the top!

Well, thanks to IHRA, at least I have options for a couple of former NHRA altitude tracks...Salt Lake City, and Tucson!!!

Gary,after the .30 reduction a year ago,which with the old altitude factor dropped the index at Bandimere .32. Now with the new altitude factor your index dropped another .23. Your new index up here went from a 17.14 to a 16.59 in just over a year. The lower the track,the less increase in index lowering.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by The Hawk

Gary,after the .30 reduction a year ago,which with the old altitude factor dropped the index at Bandimere .32. Now with the new altitude factor your index dropped another .23. Your new index up here went from a 17.14 to a 16.59 in just over a year. The lower the track,the less increase in index lowering.

Thanks Lane, that's what I thought it was too, and with my best run in the summer months (with heat and headwinds being intangibles there), being that 16.664 I ran in the 3rd rnd of the '06 Mile High's, I now know it would be pointless for me to enter that race again unless/until I can free up $5k to have headers custom made for my car, and get my engine redone with a better durationed cam....it's all about the money, or lack thereof...

More reason for me to be glad for RMR, & SIR embracing the IHRA, since at 4400ft, I was .35 under in not-so-ideal weather conditions, and that was even with their indexes using the Super Comp/Gas/Street correction factor...now that's something to about!