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Old 05-20-2011, 11:04 AM   #601
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I'll go snipe hunting with you Ed. I like them. They taste like chicken.
Being a dumb-azzed city boy, I don't even know what the heck a snipe is. :-(

Seems like everything tastes like chicken anyway. LOL
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Old 05-20-2011, 12:10 PM   #602
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Being a dumb-azzed city boy, I don't even know what the heck a snipe is. :-(

Seems like everything tastes like chicken anyway. LOL
LOL....Its a country boy joke. You get left holding the bag as there is no snipes when your buddies tell you to stay here and collect them in the bag when they go down the hill and run them to you....only they just leave you in the dark, alone, and holding an empty bag.
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Old 05-20-2011, 12:24 PM   #603
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Most snipe hunts fall apart, but 1972 we had one that was text book perfect. When I go home and visit the ole gang we always relive that hunt. No snipes were caught that night but I know two New York boys that will never be the same.
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Old 05-20-2011, 12:35 PM   #604
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To Bill Dedman and others, if this were to change one of the unintended consequences that could happen will alter qualifing vs. eliminations, just a scenario, take Fontana's elimination's ladder first round for instance.

Index Runs
#4 B/SA 11.25 10.53 -.713
#34 C/S 11.35 10.81 -.536

one would tend to believe that in most cases first round would look like this,
C/sa leaves first by .28 (all things being equal)

Now what could happen is after qualifing and only seconds before you run 1st round B/sa decides to put 10.99 on his window C/s had already put his original 10.81 and pulled into the water box thinking in most cases he is leaving first , so now you have switched (B/sa now leaves first by .18, just looking over other races this could be played out time and time again. Bill these are hypotheticals but it could and probably would happen with the new rule, i also understand that in cases this could happen already but generally B/sa is going to want to leave second .Bill can you see the mess this could cause which then would lead to another rule to prevent this. Unintended consequences. Bill just look at other races and see how many times this could play out. P.S. I think my numbers are right but if there is an error it is unintended. Bill now have you given some cars an advantage to pick and choose again?

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Old 05-20-2011, 01:42 PM   #605
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:07 PM   #606
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Most snipe hunts fall apart, but 1972 we had one that was text book perfect. When I go home and visit the ole gang we always relive that hunt. No snipes were caught that night but I know two New York boys that will never be the same.
Afraid I would have been with the New york guys, before today. LOL
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:24 PM   #607
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You guys are nuts, hunting for snipe. It is only a small bird from the Gallinagos species.
It's all fun and games trying to trick some folks about snipe hunting, that is until you come across a professional snipe hunter. Things change all of a sudden. Now get back to your debate about running a red light.

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Old 05-20-2011, 03:28 PM   #608
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[Ed Wright;Bob, it's not FIRST to go red?]

What are you talking about..................

It's first or worst.........

Wasn't I clear enough....

NHRA has a policy that was in the rule book for years that NHRA would always have a round winner..The policy is first or worst to determine the winner of the round of racing....EXCEPT red lights which is first only and NOT first or worst...

It should be either the first red light or the worst red light....or crossing the center line or hitting the wall or punching out an NHRA official....whatever is first OR worst

You can even win on a single red light if the other car is light…..First OR Worst…

This is like pulling teeth

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Oh man! I feel your pain Bob! Some people lack the ability of verbal or written comprehension! My head is sore from beating it against the wall! Jim



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Old 05-20-2011, 03:39 PM   #609
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It still ain't gonna change, no matter how much you cry about it.
It's like pulling teeth getting through some thick heads that it is what it is, and if you can't live with that, either build a fast car or don't race. Do something else. Go fishing.
This simply is just not true! It CAN change if you can get it through the "thick heads" and convince them, much as I was, that this is worth changing! I don't see anybody "crying" about anything here Ed. I see several people debating and putting forth facts and opinions. And to tell someone to " if you can't live with that, either build a fast car or don't race. Do something else. Go fishing" is asinine. How would you feel if a Top Fuel racer told you "if you can't run 4.50 in the quarter mile you should build a faster car go fishing"? Makes just as much sense. Jim
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Like all dying arguments, it almost always resorts to either name calling, spell checking or grammar corrections. I think you know what Bob was trying to say.
And I don't think this thread is going to die until it hits 20,000; at least. Looks like all arguments are exhausted except those noted. So what's the point? Internet status? As far as I know, nothing has been formerly presented to NHRA so it must be that, internet status. Yea! What an accomplishment!
I saw no name calling in that post or any other that Bill has written so far. You must be confusing Bill with Ed Wright. Jim


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