Pontiac Combo's

treessavoy · 05-18-2011, 12:09 AM

Are the early '60's 421 cars viable?

JimR

Lynn A McCarty · 05-18-2011, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by treessavoy

Are the early '60's 421 cars viable?

JimR

Small Valve engines, 18 degree valve angle, no approval on aftermarket head castings like other brands, overly rated HP, very small hand out from the intake runner NHRA CC fairy, take tons of cash.....pretty normal.

Agree, best combo for stock and maybe even SS is the 301 Turbo. Probably even can drive it to the race.

Kegracing · 05-18-2011, 08:05 AM

How about the 67 400 combo? I know it is a one off year for the 670 heads and intake...

I have my 67 Firebird ragtop set up with a ZZ4 IHRA crate motor now, but would really like to make my Pontiac a Pontiac again! I have some parts - block, heads, intake, etc. but time and money... did I say money, are slowing the process.

Anyone want to help a fellow Pontiac racer?

Seriously, would appreciate feedback on this combo. Only one I see running right now is Bo Butner in a coupe, and it is pretty fast, but Bo has enough money to make anything fast!

thanks,
Ken

Richard Grant · 05-18-2011, 09:22 AM

Johnny send me a PM with asking price, pics, and details.
Ken, were you pitted next to me at Shreveport in the white Pontiac ragtop?

B Aceves · 05-18-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kegracing

How about the 67 400 combo? I know it is a one off year for the 670 heads and intake...

I have my 67 Firebird ragtop set up with a ZZ4 IHRA crate motor now, but would really like to make my Pontiac a Pontiac again! I have some parts - block, heads, intake, etc. but time and money... did I say money, are slowing the process.

Anyone want to help a fellow Pontiac racer?

Seriously, would appreciate feedback on this combo. Only one I see running right now is Bo Butner in a coupe, and it is pretty fast, but Bo has enough money to make anything fast!

thanks,
Ken

Ken,
Brian Phillips is running this same combo and does very very well with it.
What is it that you need help with ? Parts ?

Ed Fernandez · 05-18-2011, 04:32 PM

Ask Billy Nees about the 301 Pontiac.If he's in a good mood he'll give you a wealth of info.

Kegracing · 05-18-2011, 06:47 PM

Richard, yes that was me... was not there long enough to get to know many of my neighbors! Sorry. Hope to see you in Crandall.

B Aceves, you are right, thanks. I forgot about Brian's car. I thought at first that Bo had bought it, but then saw they were both on a sheet late last year... While I would love some help if someone had a motor, I was just half kidding. I have some stock parts sitting on a shelf - heads, intake, stock short block, just do not have the time or money to go thru and do everything right, at this time. With a wife and two young boys, racing funds come down the line some

. I have had the car for over 20 years, is an original OHC 4V car, and have the original engine in the garage. Have been slowly working on it for last couple of years to go from street to track, without cutting or messing stuff up. I have a ZZ4 legal motor in it, will go .4-.5 under, and basically just a bracket motor. Stock th350 with a converter. Did put a good Moser rear, with all caltrac setup and 4 wheel disc under it. Will race and work on it as I can. When I build the Pontiac motor, I would really like to do it right.
Thanks for asking!

Ken

Mark Yacavone · 05-18-2011, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Ask Billy Nees about the 301 Pontiac.If he's in a good mood he'll give you a wealth of info.

Okay Ed, so now everybody knows who brought you know who's name into this discussion first. Not me!

Richard , I based my original answer on which Pontiac V8 could qualify at Indy for the least amount of money spent. You didn't say whether it had to be in one of the higher classes or not.
There are plenty of other good combos; some mentioned, some not yet.
If you want to be a player in the 10 and 11 second classes , get ready to spend a bunch of money on the heads, transmission, etc . Same as any other brand...You know the drill.

Ed Fernandez · 05-18-2011, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Okay Ed, so now everybody knows who brought you know who's name into this discussion first. Not me!

Richard , I based my original answer on which Pontiac V8 could qualify at Indy for the least amount of money spent. You didn't say whether it had to be in one of the higher classes or not.
There are plenty of other good combos; some mentioned, some not yet.
If you want to be a player in the 10 and 11 second classes , get ready to spend a bunch of money on the heads, transmission, etc . Same as any other brand...You know the drill.

Come on Mark,we know he's a modest man.Never one to blow his own horn.

Dwight Southerland · 05-18-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty

Agree, best combo for stock and maybe even SS is the 301 Turbo. Probably even can drive it to the race.

Lynn -
I believe Mark was referring to the 301 4-bbl naturally aspirated engine.

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Kegracing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Red Oak, TX Posts: 441 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Pontiac Combo's Richard, yes that was me... was not there long enough to get to know many of my neighbors! Sorry. Hope to see you in Crandall. B Aceves, you are right, thanks. I forgot about Brian's car. I thought at first that Bo had bought it, but then saw they were both on a sheet late last year... While I would love some help if someone had a motor, I was just half kidding. I have some stock parts sitting on a shelf - heads, intake, stock short block, just do not have the time or money to go thru and do everything right, at this time. With a wife and two young boys, racing funds come down the line some . I have had the car for over 20 years, is an original OHC 4V car, and have the original engine in the garage. Have been slowly working on it for last couple of years to go from street to track, without cutting or messing stuff up. I have a ZZ4 legal motor in it, will go .4-.5 under, and basically just a bracket motor. Stock th350 with a converter. Did put a good Moser rear, with all caltrac setup and 4 wheel disc under it. Will race and work on it as I can. When I build the Pontiac motor, I would really like to do it right. Thanks for asking! Ken