worst red light debate, again!

[Mike Carr]

Originally Posted by Bunkster

What, and please be precise, is a "clean tree"?

The clean tree is what the first car to leave in a handicapped race has. No distractions of a tree counting down (n/a in the current days of tree blinders), or no distraction of a car leaving first.

Both fast(er) and slow(er) cars have advantages and disadvantages, and could be debated for years. But doing so on here will ultimately accomplish nothing. More often that not, these threads degenerate into name calling, posting off-the-wall photos, question/answer ducking, finger pointing, accusations, etc etc etc, and nothing positive usually ever comes of it. If I, or almost anyone else, had an issue with something, we would direct our input/comments/questions to the person or persons who could actually help and, maybe, do something about it. Week-long, 30+ page threads are, at best, entertainment, but seldom do nothing to solve any (perceived or real) problems.

[Pvt Parts]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Long spots like you described are easy. 5/10ths or less are hardest for me. Looking at my last amber, the other car goes past the tree on the other side. Hard to miss that. I have had guys tell me you could set a bomb off and they wouldn't know if. I've seen enough lousy lights from them in those conditions, I'm not buying that. :-)

My actions or reactions start with the first bulb..... red alert.... second bulb... accellerator wide open..... third bulb.... release the clutch. And I always count them in my head as they come down so I am locked on the tree from the first bulb. My opponent could blow up, catch on fire and go up in smoke and I wouldn't know it untill I was in high gear.

[Bob Mulry]

Hi All,

When I started Drag Racing, both drivers got a "clean" flagman.

If it wasn't a heads up race the slower car, got their spot and moved down the track and sometimes got to race for 1200'.

The poor flagman was sometimes 100' down track...

We didn't have any other way to have a handicap start....

We have come a long way in the last 50 years...so why not take the final step and fix rule by making it just like ALL of the other rules in drag racing "first or worst"

Bob

[Pvt Parts]

Originally Posted by Mike Carr

The clean tree is what the first car to leave in a handicapped race has. No distractions of a tree counting down (n/a in the current days of tree blinders), or no distraction of a car leaving first.

Both fast(er) and slow(er) cars have advantages and disadvantages, and could be debated for years. But doing so on here will ultimately accomplish nothing. More often that not, these threads degenerate into name calling, posting off-the-wall photos, question/answer ducking, finger pointing, accusations, etc etc etc, and nothing positive usually ever comes of it. If I, or almost anyone else, had an issue with something, we would direct our input/comments/questions to the person or persons who could actually help and, maybe, do something about it. Week-long, 30+ page threads are, at best, entertainment, but seldom do nothing to solve any (perceived or real) problems.

Agreed!! Absolutely true in all respects. In fact the nonsense in this thread is almost beyond comprehension and belief. Actually, a carefully timed, laser guided stroke, tactfully applied to the delete key by the admin should have put an end to this long ago.

[Ed Wright]

Bunkster doesn't drive a race car, does he/she? LOL
Either that, or he/she is so slow that he/she always leaves first.
In that case he/she always has a clean tree and doesn't know the difference.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Pvt Parts

Agreed!! Absolutely true in all respects. In fact the nonsense in this thread is almost beyond comprehension and belief. Actually, a carefully timed, laser guided stroke, tactfully applied to the delete key by the admin should have put an end to this long ago.

Disagreed! I'll bet Kenny is glad he didn't do as you suggested.
3rd place now in all time post participation...
Very informative, to say the least.. Keep it up!

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

Hi All,

When I started Drag Racing, both drivers got a "clean" flagman.

If it wasn't a heads up race the slower car, got their spot and moved down the track and sometimes got to race for 1200'.

The poor flagman was sometimes 100' down track...

We didn't have any other way to have a handicap start....

We have come a long way in the last 50 years...so why not take the final step and fix rule by making it just like ALL of the other rules in drag racing "first or worst"

Bob

Bob ,
A little before my time, but what do you suppose would have happened if both cars jumped the flag and they couldn't decide who jumped first...
So , the track gave the win to the faster car...just because, well , you're supposed to get a special break if you go "fast".

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Bob ,
A little before my time, but what do you suppose would have happened if both cars jumped the flag and they couldn't decide who jumped first...
So , the track gave the win to the faster car...just because, well , you're supposed to get a special break if you go "fast".

You obviously didn't race then. We had many re-runs. I mean many. Ditto at the finish line when the guy(s) down there that pointed a flag at the winning lane thought it was too close to call.
Around here the spot in Stock was 25' per class, with a 250' max. I used to get the same spot on a D/S as an A/S.

[Pvt Parts]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Disagreed! I'll bet Kenny is glad he didn't do as you suggested.
3rd place now in all time post participation...
Very informative, to say the least.. Keep it up!

That's true if the only purpose of this site is to generate page hits for advertising. I would like to think that most racers frequent this board to learn how to become more competitive, buy and sell race car part and evolve to become a better racer. People who visit this board for those reasons represent "quality" page hits that are more valuable to advertisers than "non qualified" hits that come here to watch a circus.

The results to that approach are often short lived and usually wind up being counterproductive in the end.

[Bob Mulry]

Mark,

I'm not sure that you are telling the truth about never racing with a flagman....

I thought that you & Chuck Norton came up with the name for dirt??????????

Bob