worst red light debate, again!

[Bimbo Jones]

Right back atcha Bill. Ya just lost one of the two people that was on your side on this one. Don't get wet!

[Mike Carr]

Bill, to answer your often-asked question, NO, there is NO good reason why we have the current system. Anyone with an IQ over twenty can see that the rule is unfair. Happy?

The thing that bothers the majority of us, is the fact that you and a few others bring this old subject up time and time again. We're just sick of reading it. Myself (and others) have politely asked you, and people of your ilk, to please stop posting this stuff every few months, get off your ***, and actually go out and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

And, while you're at it, get NHRA to fix the other issues that are wrong with our sport, issues much more important than a first or worst redlight rule that might come into play 5% of the time, or less. Fix the payouts, fix the rising costs/fees, fix the run schedule, fix the AHFS, fix the track conditions, fix Class Eliminations, and all the other nonsense NHRA has shoved upon us over the past 5-10 years.

[John Lang]

Who started this CRAP, and woke up these guys with there never ending first or worst CRAP! IT IS WHAT IS!!!! Get over it, and What Mike said X2.......Later, John

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by John Lang

Who started this CRAP, and woke up these guys with there never ending first or worst CRAP! IT IS WHAT IS!!!! Get over it, and What Mike said X2.......Later, John

"Who started it"????

NHRA started it in 1963 when they set in motion a system that provides unequal treatment for firat-to-leave and second-to-leave competitors in handicap racing.

You can blame them...

It is what it is, but it doesn't have to be. There once was a "first-to-break out" system, but they realized that that doesn't make sense, so they changed it.

This is just more of the same, and they need to change IT, now that they can.

I can't see any reason to live with an unfair rule, can you?

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by Mike Carr

The thing that bothers the majority of us, is the fact that you and a few others bring this old subject up time and time again. We're just sick of reading it. .

You haven't figured out that you DO NOT have to read it if you don't like reading it ?
You have the choice of NOT reading it !!

[Ed Fernandez]

Thank you John.That's the answer.Let's let Bill make another post and we'll just not come back here on this thread.Presto,no more wasted time.Thanks John.Anybody who answers his post is an official Class Racer Horses *****.

[Hagen Gary]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Thank you John.That's the answer.Let's let Bill make another post and we'll just not come back here on this thread.Presto,no more wasted time.Thanks John.Anybody who answers his post is an official Class Racer Horses *****.

Ohhh, let me hurry up and get my post in.

I'm on both sides of this. Slow car in SS (for div 4 anyway), Fast car in Stock and I like the rule the way it is. As someone already pointed out, I like to have a clean tree. There is an advantage to that. Especially if you’re a blinder racer. If you take away my green light coming on, you also take away my ability to more accurately estimate my RT by when the green comes on. Is that good enough Mr. Bill?

[Toby Lang]

Originally Posted by Hagen Gary

If you take away my green light coming on, you also take away my ability to more accurately estimate my RT by when the green comes on. Is that good enough Mr. Bill?

This is the first time I've ever heard of anybody doing that, but it's my understanding that the green light will come on until both cars have left the line.


-Toby

[Ed Wright]

It ain't gonna change by posting endless crap here. Talk to NHRA.

[Hagen Gary]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

This is the first time I've ever heard of anybody doing that, but it's my understanding that the green light will come on until both cars have left the line.


-Toby

That’s what I'm saying. If the green lights don't come on until the faster car leaves the line, then the faster car has a better judgment of where he's at on the tree. I know it sounds a bit funny, but I can tell if I was closer to .000 or .040 by when the green light starts to come on as I pass the tree. Two totally different spots in my window. Take that away and you take away that advantage from the slower car and give it to the faster one. Hope I didn’t give away any secrets, we all know you guys don’t need any more help. I'm just wondering if Mr. Bill considers this one reason against changing the rule or not.