2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock

Jim Wahl · 03-18-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Cour

How about saying nothing for once. You seem to have an opinion about everything. Right down to what brand of toilet paper Tom Compton uses to wipe his ***!

Compton doesn't have to wipe his ***, not while he still has racers who are willing to wipe it for him. Jim

Sean Cour · 03-18-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

Compton doesn't have to wipe his ***, not while he still has racers who are willing to wipe it for him. Jim

Racers wiping Compton's ***? Are you referring to participation? Elaborate please.

goinbroke2 · 03-18-2011, 11:26 PM

Not trying to play the devil's advocate here, but..

Ah, I just deleted a long post. I'll sum it up so it won't be too inflamatory;
Not too many years ago I remember being on here (along with others) thinking how cool it would be for the factories to get involved in S&SS racing again. We had all kinds of great reasons for them to dump money back into our favorite sport, win on sunday/sell on monday, exposure/bragging rights for ad's. Oh it was going to be great.

Guess what. They did come back. Only they want ensure they get a good ROI so they ensure their cars are seen and seen winning. yes factors are a bit skewed..ok, a lot skewed, but since jumping back in, ford has continually made more and more racing parts available. Heck look at the street cars, as soon as chev announced that the 2012 camaro will be 550hp to beat the gt500's 525hp...ford announced the 2013 gt500 will have 600hp! That's 600HP!!!! With a warranty!! Available at any dealership!!!
Is the HP war on again? HELL YEAH! Chev has a 397hp diesel, ford puts out a 400hp. It's crazy.
You want to buy a drag car from the factory? Done.
You want to buy a body in white to build a dragcar? Done.
You want to buy the latest/greatest engine available? Done.

Yes heads up sucks if they're in the other lane. I feel for ya. It's not the racers fault for having a car that is slowly becoming obsolete. It's also not the racers fault for wanting to race a new car. Yes it is the *HRA's and the manufacturer's "fault", but look at it from their side for once and not only your own side.
Would you dump massive amount of time money and effort into something knowing that the only area you didn't put 100% was where it would count the most to get a ROI? Of course not.

At least they didn't just update the cutoff year! How much crying would there be if they said "20 year old cars maximum"?
The guide would start in 1990.
I'm just saying, it's not good, but it could be a hell of a lot worse.

(I thought this was going to be shorter??)

novassdude · 03-19-2011, 12:59 AM

I think most would have no problem if the factory was behind people racing the cars that are on the lot with the motors that came with them. Not special built engines that do not come in the street version.
It is just a slap in the face when they get a pumped up version of the street engine and it is rated well below the street versions HP numbers.

Steve Sullivan · 03-19-2011, 12:21 PM

Quote: How about saying nothing for once. You seem to have an opinion about everything. Right down to what brand of toilet paper Tom Compton uses to wipe his ***!

Thank you Sean Cour!!! About time somebody told that bloviating gas bag to shut up.

Mr. Bell needs to get a life. He seems to spend most of his miserable existence being a derisive wet blanket, here and on the H.A.M.B. He and quite a few other douchebags on here are why many more people don't participate on this forum. Between the continual bitching and talk radio politics it's not somewhere you would want to go for any intelligent discussion about Stock/Superstock racing!!!.

X-TECH MAN · 03-19-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Sullivan

Quote: How about saying nothing for once. You seem to have an opinion about everything. Right down to what brand of toilet paper Tom Compton uses to wipe his ***!

Thank you Sean Cour!!! About time somebody told that bloviating gas bag to shut up.

Mr. Bell needs to get a life. He seems to spend most of his miserable existence being a derisive wet blanket, here and on the H.A.M.B. He and quite a few other douchebags on here are why many more people don't participate on this forum. Between the continual bitching and talk radio politics it's not somewhere you would want to go for any intelligent discussion about Stock/Superstock racing!!!.

Bite me AZZ hole ! Its OK when anyone else on this site says something about these underrated cars but when I say it all of you jack offs get upset and jump on me. Wake up and look at whats happening to the class racing around you. I really dont care anymore....not even a little bit....and you and all the rest who love the HP factors of these new cars can stick it where the sun dosent shine. My comments have nothing to do about the brand of car, the people who race them or the cost. Its strickly about what is right and what is wrong with class racing today. I can only hope you get outrun by one of these new underrated cars at each race you go to in the first round....that is if you even run anything but your mouth ! That goes for the rest of you NHRA suck ups. Im out of here.

Sean Cour · 03-19-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Im out of here.

Promises, promises.

junior barns · 03-19-2011, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Sullivan

Quote: How about saying nothing for once. You seem to have an opinion about everything. Right down to what brand of toilet paper Tom Compton uses to wipe his ***!

Thank you Sean Cour!!! About time somebody told that bloviating gas bag to shut up.

Mr. Bell needs to get a life. He seems to spend most of his miserable existence being a derisive wet blanket, here and on the H.A.M.B. He and quite a few other douchebags on here are why many more people don't participate on this forum. Between the continual bitching and talk radio politics it's not somewhere you would want to go for any intelligent discussion about Stock/Superstock racing!!!.

How can there be an intelligent discussion when some people do not see anything wrong with what NHRA has done to Stock with these bogus HP ratings!!!!!

I love the new cars but hate HP ratings!!!!! It is just not right PERIOD

PS I will continue to stay home and play golf on all my free time

Chad Mahlosky · 03-19-2011, 05:47 PM

Yeah, I don't really care for the factors. I also don't really care to hear someone's opinion who doesn't even race in the class. And not only that, he is the one that does the most bitching. Just sayin'

Jim Wahl · 03-19-2011, 06:33 PM

Shame on you guys! Since when is it against the law for a crotchety old guy to bitch? Mr. Bell has devoted most of his life to Drag Racing and is entitled to bitch. He has probably forgotten (maybe not yet) more than most of us will ever know about this sport! I may not agree with him but I will defend his right to bitch with my life! Something like that. Anyway, shame on you guys. Jim

03-18-2011, 11:26 PM	#3
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 888 Likes: 1,604 Liked 387 Times in 151 Posts	Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock Not trying to play the devil's advocate here, but.. Ah, I just deleted a long post. I'll sum it up so it won't be too inflamatory; Not too many years ago I remember being on here (along with others) thinking how cool it would be for the factories to get involved in S&SS racing again. We had all kinds of great reasons for them to dump money back into our favorite sport, win on sunday/sell on monday, exposure/bragging rights for ad's. Oh it was going to be great. Guess what. They did come back. Only they want ensure they get a good ROI so they ensure their cars are seen and seen winning. yes factors are a bit skewed..ok, a lot skewed, but since jumping back in, ford has continually made more and more racing parts available. Heck look at the street cars, as soon as chev announced that the 2012 camaro will be 550hp to beat the gt500's 525hp...ford announced the 2013 gt500 will have 600hp! That's 600HP!!!! With a warranty!! Available at any dealership!!! Is the HP war on again? HELL YEAH! Chev has a 397hp diesel, ford puts out a 400hp. It's crazy. You want to buy a drag car from the factory? Done. You want to buy a body in white to build a dragcar? Done. You want to buy the latest/greatest engine available? Done. Yes heads up sucks if they're in the other lane. I feel for ya. It's not the racers fault for having a car that is slowly becoming obsolete. It's also not the racers fault for wanting to race a new car. Yes it is the *HRA's and the manufacturer's "fault", but look at it from their side for once and not only your own side. Would you dump massive amount of time money and effort into something knowing that the only area you didn't put 100% was where it would count the most to get a ROI? Of course not. At least they didn't just update the cutoff year! How much crying would there be if they said "20 year old cars maximum"? The guide would start in 1990. I'm just saying, it's not good, but it could be a hell of a lot worse. (I thought this was going to be shorter??)

03-19-2011, 12:59 AM	#4
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 752 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock I think most would have no problem if the factory was behind people racing the cars that are on the lot with the motors that came with them. Not special built engines that do not come in the street version. It is just a slap in the face when they get a pumped up version of the street engine and it is rated well below the street versions HP numbers.

03-19-2011, 12:21 PM	#5
Steve Sullivan Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Chester Posts: 67 Likes: 28 Liked 29 Times in 14 Posts	Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock Quote: How about saying nothing for once. You seem to have an opinion about everything. Right down to what brand of toilet paper Tom Compton uses to wipe his ***! Thank you Sean Cour!!! About time somebody told that bloviating gas bag to shut up. Mr. Bell needs to get a life. He seems to spend most of his miserable existence being a derisive wet blanket, here and on the H.A.M.B. He and quite a few other douchebags on here are why many more people don't participate on this forum. Between the continual bitching and talk radio politics it's not somewhere you would want to go for any intelligent discussion about Stock/Superstock racing!!!.

03-19-2011, 05:47 PM	#9
Chad Mahlosky Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 83 Likes: 0 Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock Yeah, I don't really care for the factors. I also don't really care to hear someone's opinion who doesn't even race in the class. And not only that, he is the one that does the most bitching. Just sayin' __________________ Chad Mahlosky 3225 STK

03-19-2011, 06:33 PM	#10
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: 2011 4.6 3 valve Ford Ok'd for stock Shame on you guys! Since when is it against the law for a crotchety old guy to bitch? Mr. Bell has devoted most of his life to Drag Racing and is entitled to bitch. He has probably forgotten (maybe not yet) more than most of us will ever know about this sport! I may not agree with him but I will defend his right to bitch with my life! Something like that. Anyway, shame on you guys. Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.