Another low car count?

Harry 6674 · 03-18-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by treekiller

IMPROVING CAR COUNTS make it fair WOW what is sooooo hard to understand?

Makes it fair for who?

Alan Roehrich · 03-18-2011, 04:02 PM

Just say no to eliminating heads up races in Stock and Super Stock. Take out the chance of getting a heads up race, and it's just another bracket race, only with more expensive cars, and a smaller purse. Exactly who is going to go to a bracket race that costs $305 to enter and only pays $1500? Especially with an expensive and difficult to maintain class car?

I had a conversation the other day with a guy who may be the very best class car chassis builder in the country. He said the only thing that got him to the track lately was the Hemi cars at the Hemi shootouts, because everything else had become diluted and convoluted.

I'd rather get beat heads up every so often, than have nothing but a pure dial in bracket race. If we get beat by a new car heads up, he's got nothing at all to brag about, and we've got nothing to hang our head about. I quit racing years ago after doing nothing but bracket racing and .90 super class racing for years. I was bored stiff, and sick of it. The ONLY reason I came back to the sport I love is the chance to work with class cars.

Make it all bracket racing, and I'm done. I have nothing against guys who bracket race, and .90 super race, some of my best friends do it, and more power to them. But I am done with that. If it comes to nothing but that, I'll spend my time hunting and fishing, and getting my pilot's license.

Ed Wright · 03-18-2011, 04:13 PM

X2

Billy Nees · 03-18-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Just say no to eliminating heads up races in Stock and Super Stock. Take out the chance of getting a heads up race, and it's just another bracket race, only with more expensive cars, and a smaller purse. Exactly who is going to go to a bracket race that costs $305 to enter and only pays $1500? Especially with an expensive and difficult to maintain class car?

The "Alternative Lifestyle Weekend/ RV Rodeo"crowd. You know, the majority of the people going there now.

treekiller · 03-18-2011, 04:36 PM

Why is the idea of having to drive your car to win a race instead of just having the fastest one on the property so distasteful to some? How much money do you win for winning class eliminations? If you win a national event without running another car in your class all you have done is win a bracket race. Does that not feel worth it unless you outrun 3 cars in your class while cutting 150 lights? Cmon

Ed Wright · 03-18-2011, 04:42 PM

If you think races are won with lights like that you have not been paying attention. All bracket racers seem to think they cut better lights than S/SS racers. Not at any bracket races I've been to. Why do you think we are interested in your opinions?

Alan Roehrich · 03-18-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by treekiller

Why is the idea of having to drive your car to win a race instead of just having the fastest one on the property so distasteful to some? How much money do you win for winning class eliminations? If you win a national event without running another car in your class all you have done is win a bracket race. Does that not feel worth it unless you outrun 3 cars in your class while cutting 150 lights? Cmon

You simply do not understand. Not in the least. You do not get it, and you never will. It has been explained to you by several people, in several ways. It ain't gettin through.

And I'll put my jockey up against most anyone, he drives both ends of the track pretty well. We don't have the fastest cars in our classes, we're mid pack at best. Most of our heads up races have been very close.

treekiller · 03-18-2011, 04:57 PM

You fellas are so right.... Yall are like my dad two ways to do things his way and the wrong way. GOOD LUCK w the car counts peace out

treekiller · 03-18-2011, 05:18 PM

By the way I only said 150 lights pertaining to guys in heads up races that have their opponent covered by 3 or 4 tenths. Does anyone really think that a little guy who takes a week off of work spends over 1000 bucks to go to a nat event w his b c or dsa car for example and makes it 4 or 5 rds and then gets outrun by 3 or 4 tenths just before the money rd by a 150000 drag pak car says oh that's drag racing? No you've just created a bracket racer and made your CAR COUNT lower.

Harry 6674 · 03-18-2011, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by treekiller

You fellas are so right.... Yall are like my dad two ways to do things his way and the wrong way. GOOD LUCK w the car counts peace out

Well I'll tell you this. The bracket racing crowd had better pray class racing don't go away. If the stock and super stock racers all shifted to brackets their would be a lot of you going home early. Some class racers are deadly in bracket mode. Even I win a bracket race once in a while and I wouldn't be a threat to most of the hitters in class racing. It's good to be lucky once in a while.

03-18-2011, 04:02 PM	#2
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,116 Likes: 1,573 Liked 1,829 Times in 414 Posts	Re: Another low car count? Just say no to eliminating heads up races in Stock and Super Stock. Take out the chance of getting a heads up race, and it's just another bracket race, only with more expensive cars, and a smaller purse. Exactly who is going to go to a bracket race that costs $305 to enter and only pays $1500? Especially with an expensive and difficult to maintain class car? I had a conversation the other day with a guy who may be the very best class car chassis builder in the country. He said the only thing that got him to the track lately was the Hemi cars at the Hemi shootouts, because everything else had become diluted and convoluted. I'd rather get beat heads up every so often, than have nothing but a pure dial in bracket race. If we get beat by a new car heads up, he's got nothing at all to brag about, and we've got nothing to hang our head about. I quit racing years ago after doing nothing but bracket racing and .90 super class racing for years. I was bored stiff, and sick of it. The ONLY reason I came back to the sport I love is the chance to work with class cars. Make it all bracket racing, and I'm done. I have nothing against guys who bracket race, and .90 super race, some of my best friends do it, and more power to them. But I am done with that. If it comes to nothing but that, I'll spend my time hunting and fishing, and getting my pilot's license. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

03-18-2011, 04:13 PM	#3
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Another low car count? X2 __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

03-18-2011, 04:36 PM	#5
treekiller Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 124 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Another low car count? Why is the idea of having to drive your car to win a race instead of just having the fastest one on the property so distasteful to some? How much money do you win for winning class eliminations? If you win a national event without running another car in your class all you have done is win a bracket race. Does that not feel worth it unless you outrun 3 cars in your class while cutting 150 lights? Cmon

03-18-2011, 04:42 PM	#6
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Another low car count? If you think races are won with lights like that you have not been paying attention. All bracket racers seem to think they cut better lights than S/SS racers. Not at any bracket races I've been to. Why do you think we are interested in your opinions? __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

03-18-2011, 04:57 PM	#8
treekiller Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 124 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Another low car count? You fellas are so right.... Yall are like my dad two ways to do things his way and the wrong way. GOOD LUCK w the car counts peace out

03-18-2011, 05:18 PM	#9
treekiller Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 124 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Another low car count? By the way I only said 150 lights pertaining to guys in heads up races that have their opponent covered by 3 or 4 tenths. Does anyone really think that a little guy who takes a week off of work spends over 1000 bucks to go to a nat event w his b c or dsa car for example and makes it 4 or 5 rds and then gets outrun by 3 or 4 tenths just before the money rd by a 150000 drag pak car says oh that's drag racing? No you've just created a bracket racer and made your CAR COUNT lower.