Redlight Poll (Revised)

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Ed,
You just can't stay focused on the subject, can you? Your character assination/KILL THE MESSENGER M.O. is so much easier than formulating an intelligent response, that you simply cannot resist...

I started online bulletin boarding on Prodigy (was the drag racing BB modulator) before the internet existed; that was in the early '90s, so I've had a long time to develop a thick skin against desultory comments from people like you, who think it makes them seem more knowledgeable than they really are.

The fact is, this first red light rule came into being ONLY as a result of the NHRA's being unable to fix it, like they did the breakout rule, 48 years ago, and kind of got shuffled into the "tha't's the way it's always been" category, so everybody, INCLUDING ME, eventually acccepted it as "the norm."

The, when it became possible (new software) to FIX it, people like you, who had been subject to its vagaries, for so many years, reacted with, "FIX WHAT???" They were so entrenched in the status quo, they couldn't understand the value in re-programing it so it would operate like the breakout software (worse infraction loses.)

So, now we have a majority of people thinking that it's just one more change to deal with.
And, they don't want another change. They can't or won't do the work of understanding what benefit it has for them...

Well, NHRA won't ever spend a plugged nickle for the software to fix it, because it won't make them ANY money... and, you know how that goes.

So, we're stuck with a 48-year-old rule that screws the first car to leave, EVERY time 2 cars go down the drag strip in a handicapped race.

Was it Warren Johnson, or somebody else who said, "You can't fix stupid"???

But keep on killing the messenger, if it makes you feel better... I've come to expect nothing of a rational, analytical, response from you... that would take some thought.

if both cars are green, or just one car goes green (those two options would be about 95% of the time) then no one gets screwed.

[Ed Wright]

Bill, it's not going to happen. Don't give yourself an ulcer.

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

if both cars are green, or just one car goes green (those two options would be about 95% of the time) then no one gets screwed.

You're 100-percent correct.

But the POTENTIAL for a red light always exists.THAT is the scenario that is what all this is about, because it's totally unnecessary. Totally...

Is it a big deal? No.

Unless it's the final round at the U.S. Nationals, and you're the slower car, and you bulb with a near-telepathic-.999... while your faster competitor has a -.213, but, goes home with the money and the Wally...

Then, it becomes a big deal.

Has this ever hapened? I don't know, and the likelihood of it happening is small.

But it COULD.

And when/if it does, I hope it's Ed Fernandez, and his Gremlin, leaving first.

[Jim Wahl]

I remember Len Imbrogno told me one time that 90% of the polls taken result in a 60% to 40% vote. Looks as if this one is no exception. Jim

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

You're 100-percent correct.

But the POTENTIAL for a red light always exists.THAT is the scenario that is what all this is about, because it's totally unnecessary. Totally...

Is it a big deal? No.

Unless it's the final round at the U.S. Nationals, and you're the slower car, and you bulb with a near-telepathic-.999... while your faster competitor has a -.213, but, goes home with the money and the Wally...

Then, it becomes a big deal.

Has this ever hapened? I don't know, and the likelihood of it happening is small.

But it COULD.

And when/if it does, I hope it's Ed Fernandez, and his Gremlin, leaving first.

Oh booo hooo hoooo you've damaged my self esteem.I'll never be the same.

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Oh booo hooo hoooo you've damaged my self esteem.I'll never be the same.

Ed,
I apologize for damaging your self-esteem with my flawed math.There's no excuse for a stupid mathematical error like that. My bad.

What I MEANT to say, to illustrate my point, was; the first car to leave has a near-telepathic red light (-.001) while the next car to leave has a worse infraction (-.021) but, due to this antiquated timing system, goes home the winner.

If you think there's anything logical, desirable, or fair about that, I'd like to hear it.

[Mark Yacavone]

I too, keep looking for logical reasoning here . It keeps me coming back ,often.

Most of the time , all I see is personal attacks or red herring issues.

I f someone wants to make the case the the faster cars are already under too many disadvantages and the current red light system helps even things out, I'd like to hear THAT.

[Ed Wright]

Mark, doesn't matter. Not going to happen. I don't care either way, but I'm not stupid enough to get all bent out of shape over it, and think NHRA or IHRA is ever going to spend the time or money to change it.

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Originally Posted by bill dedman

You're 100-percent correct.

But the POTENTIAL for a red light always exists.THAT is the scenario that is what all this is about, because it's totally unnecessary. Totally...

Is it a big deal? No.

Unless it's the final round at the U.S. Nationals, and you're the slower car, and you bulb with a near-telepathic-.999... while your faster competitor has a -.213, but, goes home with the money and the Wally...

Then, it becomes a big deal.

Has this ever hapened? I don't know, and the likelihood of it happening is small.

But it COULD.

And when/if it does, I hope it's Ed Fernandez, and his Gremlin, leaving first.

In your example the faster car still wins either way. -.999 is much worse than -.213