Red light survey

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Dan Bernay

Where is the moderator in all this?
Delete this thread!

WHY ? Its just discussion AND free speech. Its not putting down anyone or cussing someone. If you dont want to read it skip to the next thread and let them complain all they want.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Neal Derochie

To Marc Yacavone.

you say this needs to start at NHRA nationals first , my point is if its so easy to do then do it at your races and see how car count works for you, everyday someone wants some new personal agenda item, gets old real fast

( btw i've been involved with a super stock car for well over 35 years thanks for your concern)

Neil, I know what your point is and it still makes no sense.

Besides, Why would I want it changed at Speedworld? I race there with a 12.0 car in Sportsman. I 'm convinced I think. I want what's good for ME.
That's the new Wisconsin way, isn't it?

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

WHY ? Its just discussion AND free speech. Its not putting down anyone or cussing someone. If you dont want to read it skip to the next thread and let them complain all they want.

A lively debate scares some people! Jim



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[Mike Taylor 3601]

Doesn't matter for me I'm usaully -00? red and other guy is .160-.220 green and .20 above flat out.
Mike Taylor 3601

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601

Doesn't matter for me I'm usaully -00? red and other guy is .160-.220 green and .20 above flat out.
Mike Taylor 3601

Me too Mike. Lol

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Gary your lack of comprhension of numbers is incredible.The 33 votes was offset by the votes for basicly leaving things alone.
The percentage has stayed more or less the same since the poll was a few hours old.It's been at 28% for your welfare rules change.
Stop using liberal/progressive math.

I wasn't referring to percentages like you were Mr. Ed, I was counting vote totals per each category....but since you have to go by percentages, I find it intriguing that the percentage of those who think like you has shrunk, and those who think like me (and the other topic preferer's), has grown. I also think it amusing that the deficit of voters between my selection and yours (in actual votes) is shrinking...makes me wonder how it might be if there was no third choice...just like some of the past elections where a third candidate negated a chance for the loser of the election to actually win instead....I'll stick with my liberal/progressive math (thank you very much), because at least when I spell comprehension, I make certain to add both letter e's to it...lol!!!

[Ed Fernandez]

Percentage,not amount of stand alone votes is the point of a pole.But what the hell you'll
still think more people want the change.
It's now and has been at 28-29% for change and 71-72% for status quo.That's how it's been almost the whole time of the poll.Period.

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Bill you're a BRACKET RACER not a class racer.Do what Chad said and lobby NHRA for the change in the bracket program.
You can respond with suggestions and I can counter them.Yoy're not being muffled,just remember what you suggest affects others not you.Go on the Bracket section and make
all the suggestions you want,for the type of racing YOU DO.

Ed, tell me the difference in starting line procedure for handicap races in Class racing and in Bracket racing. Anything????
1,
2,
3,
4.

There IS no difference.

What is valid in Bracket racing is just as valid in Class racing, as far as starting line /red light protocol.

And quit trying to muddy the waters by saing things like this change is "welfare." How is it welfare; all it does is give EVERYBODY the same chance to red light.

It takes away the welfare that exists NOW, for the 2nd car to leave.

Tell me what's wrong with that?

If you can't understand that, they're right.... you can't fix stupid.

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by SStock1373

40% say keep it, 60% say otherwise. Doesn't that mean it should be changed??

No, it means that 60 percent of the voters on this board have no interest in making things as fair as possible. It's perfectly alright with them that half the cars racing are screwed by this anomaly.

If they changed it so the first car to break out was eliminated, would they think that was okay, too?

Same deal....

Used to be that way... but they fixed it. Now, let's fix this.

Tell me one good reason not to.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

No, it means that 60 percent of the voters on this board have no interest in making things as fair as possible. It's perfectly alright with them that half the cars racing are screwed by this anomaly.

If they changed it so the first car to break out was eliminated, would they think that was okay, too?

Same deal....

Used to be that way... but they fixed it. Now, let's fix this.

Tell me one good reason not to.

[QUOTE=bill dedman;243773]No, it means that 60 percent of the voters on this board have no interest in making things as fair as possible. It's perfectly alright with them that half the cars racing are screwed by this anomaly.

There you go Bill,you said it yourself.The class racers here are a bunch of self serving low life ba$tards.That's a good reason not to get involved in this conversation,because hey,it doesn't affect you anyway right?