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Old 01-26-2011, 05:05 PM   #31
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Alan, Class can draw a crowd ONLY if there are multiple cars in any class running. If the class has no cars today chances are it never will unless combined with others. Only with PR from track or NHRA.
It has to be done FIRST then the class money can come back. Without the show there is no attraction for a sponsor to get involved.
Dick? How would "you" suggest they combine my class with?
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:12 PM   #32
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Art, What do you want from S or SS?
The discussion in this post is saving S and SS it might not be saving ALL classes, or ALL cars or ALL bogus HP rates as the goal.
Creating a set of changes to provide a better set of rules, better appeal to sponsors and NHRA and manufacturers should be the discussion points.
If a group set up a sponsor group, a set of rules combining the majority of S and SS cars into a limited set of classes and got backing for prizes and attention by NHRA like Mopar did with SS/AH, would you consider moving to one of those classes even if you needed a different combination?
Thats my interest. Overall betterment of the S and SS condition. If it were re starting today we would buy what it takes not wait for a class to be produced for us to race.

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Old 01-26-2011, 05:16 PM   #33
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Art, Moving the post will not save certain classes from being evaluated in the discussions.
It might limit the input and thoughts of experienced people with direct knowledge and experience.
Or limit those with agendas that have nothing to win or lose.
And dick you haven't answered the question of where you would put my combo.
I know where I would like to put it. But I'm trying to be constructive.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:24 PM   #34
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Hence the first part of my post, the part that mentioned consolidating classes, at least to a certain extent.
Alan instead of consolidating classes. That was done to the FWD classes and half the racers quit.
How about not allowing moving up or down. Just run the natural class for the car.
That would increase competition.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:54 PM   #35
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If NHRA is really interested in what's best for the racer, then why do they take the unused contingency money? What do they do with that "free money"? Why don't they make sure the racer gets paid anymore? Jim

Thanks for your input Mark, no wonder sponsors are pulling out. Just ask Turbo Action.

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Old 01-26-2011, 05:58 PM   #36
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Alan instead of consolidating classes. That was done to the FWD classes and half the racers quit.
How about not allowing moving up or down. Just run the natural class for the car.
That would increase competition.

It doesn't solve the problem of empty classes or underpopulated classes.

You'd still have the same number of cars and the same number of classes.

You'd just be keeping them from moving. And you'd be preventing some cars from moving to a class they actually fit better, while some cars would be in a class they fit better.
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Old 01-26-2011, 06:51 PM   #37
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What about this

consolidate classes for class racing

SS/AH - heads up

SS/Stick - race off index - first to line wins

SS/Auto - race off index - first to line wins

SS/Modified - race off index - first to line wins

Any class that has at least 2 cars - Heads Up

Race on Friday down to 2 cars in each class - first round can count as qualifying

Feature class racing on Saturday Night or later Sunday during the Finals.

That would give racers a chance to be part of the show on Saturday or Sunday when you family/friends are more likely to come out and see you.

More Exposure to bigger fan base

Bring more excitement to class racing again

If it rains go to lowest qualified 2 cars in each category

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Old 01-26-2011, 07:00 PM   #38
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It doesn't solve the problem of empty classes or underpopulated classes.

You'd still have the same number of cars and the same number of classes.

You'd just be keeping them from moving. And you'd be preventing some cars from moving to a class they actually fit better, while some cars would be in a class they fit better.
Alan there were 50 classes in stock in 1978, There are 51 now.
In Superstock there are a lot of classes. And nhra does not seem to think this is a problem, they have added classes every year. For the past few years.
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Old 01-26-2011, 07:21 PM   #39
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Alan there were 50 classes in stock in 1978, There are 51 now.
In Superstock there are a lot of classes. And nhra does not seem to think this is a problem, they have added classes every year. For the past few years.
NHRA doesn't think a lot of things are a problem. Where is that getting us?

You cannot be all things to all people. You cannot have a class for everyone and every combination.

NHRA is just looking to add as many people as they can to pay membership dues, entry fees, license fees, chassis certification fees, etc.
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NHRA doesn't think a lot of things are a problem. Where is that getting us?

You cannot be all things to all people. You cannot have a class for everyone and every combination.

NHRA is just looking to add as many people as they can to pay membership dues, entry fees, license fees, chassis certification fees, etc.
Alan who is saying we have to many classes?
Dick Butler?????????
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