Ihra tucson!

GarysZ24 · 01-24-2011, 03:45 PM

My post number "6" was modified today, due to a racer who wanted their name removed from the list, but still the numbers are hopeful, and Bernie is waiting to hear from all interested in this....

HawkBrosMav · 01-24-2011, 04:43 PM

Hey gary I noticed you have both me and Brad listed but we only have one class legal car. It will be there but who is driving is up for debate.
Matt Hawk

Mark Yacavone · 01-24-2011, 06:25 PM

What happened with the vote?

7820 · 01-24-2011, 08:11 PM

This is what a few of were told by a D7 Track Operator a three months ago.

Divisionals:

$7,500.00 - Fee to NHRA for the event

$5,000.00 - Insurance Fee to NHRA.

$15,000.00 - Guarantee the T/S and T/D Purse

Notes:

We were told me that even tho the track has the same or better insurance coverage that the track MUST pay the $5,000.00 insurance fee.

We were also told that the T/S and T/D cars that did qualify DID NOT PAY ENTRY FEES!

Were were also told that NHRA gets 10% of the gate.

...again this was told to me and others by a D7 Track Operator.

X-TECH MAN · 01-24-2011, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7820

This is what a few of were told by a D7 Track Operator a three months ago.

Divisionals:

$15,000.00 - Guarantee the T/S and T/D Purse

We were also told that the T/S and T/D cars that did qualify DID NOT PAY ENTRY FEES!

This is just STUPID !

GarysZ24 · 01-24-2011, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

What happened with the vote?

There's a test and tune this coming weekend, and any and all racers who competed last year (in any S.I.R. race), can vote this week. However, the test and tune is it for voting, so the decision will come next week....

Jeff Foster · 01-24-2011, 08:50 PM

Well 7820,
the only thing true about that, is all LODRS have to have the same insurance but you don't pay NHRA for it, you pay the insurance carrier.
Track has to post the purse for all categories.
Wish the fee was only 7500.00
Only thing TD and TS non qualifiers get is they don't have to pay entry for moving to SC.

GarysZ24 · 01-25-2011, 03:48 PM

Latest news from S.I.R.,

Anyone who raced at Tucson last year (even once), can call Barb at the track (520) 762-9700, and vote over the phone to either say :

Yes to IHRA sanctioning as of Feb. 1, 2011.

Yes to NHRA sanctioning as of Sep. 1, 2011

or

Yes to their track staying an independent.

Note: If you vote for them to go back to NHRA, they will have to be an independent track until Sept. anyway. Voting concludes Sat. at their test n tune.

GarysZ24 · 01-24-2011, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkBrosMav

Hey gary I noticed you have both me and Brad listed but we only have one class legal car. It will be there but who is driving is up for debate.
Matt Hawk

Should I call WWE, and have you guys wrestle for it (lol)? Or, should you guys play your favorite card game, and the winner gets to drive??? Again lol....

Well I'm happy, but now that means there will be two names (more) that I'll have to take off of the earlier count, because Chris's car won't be ready in time for that race.

I'm glad that you guy's car will be able to go there, but now we still need at least 10 more racers to get up to 24...any of you D4 racers out there that can come out here???

Dean Feiock · 01-25-2011, 10:08 PM

Toby,

No, I don't think that the NHRA sanctioning fees have no bearing on entry fees. They certainly do. That is why I made the statement:"Moreover, if the take at the gate at SIR does not cover the operating costs, they will raise the gate price."

To me, the sanctioning body fees, insurance, wages, etc, etc, are all part of operating costs. And for the most part, those fees are fixed and the tracks know going into a season how many cars at each race it will take to turn a profit.

But again, the bottom line is the take at the gate must offset the operating costs. If it doesn't, the track will not stay open very long. How many tracks have started charging for camping, oil disposal, etc, etc? Why have they started charging for all these things? They are either greedy or their operating costs have risen. If indeed their operating cost's have risen, they will need to find a way to offset them. That in turn will mean that the cost to the racer's will be increased one way or another.

I have spent some time this week talking to Mike at Oahe Speedway. I want to start some race sponsorship to promote a new product I am distributing. He has been very informative about what it really cost's to run a track.

As for SIR, I won't pretend to know why they are switching from NHRA to IHRA. Maybe it is because the IHRA fees are less. I don't know. The switch to IHRA was not why I originally posted a reply to this thread. I replied because I wanted to know who was promoting the combo. The orignal call to support the combo as well as IHRA's involvement was very contradicting. Unfortunately, this thread has swirled out of proportion from there.

Take care, Dean

01-24-2011, 03:45 PM	#1
GarysZ24 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tempe, Az. Posts: 1,270 Likes: 918 Liked 238 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Ihra tucson! My post number "6" was modified today, due to a racer who wanted their name removed from the list, but still the numbers are hopeful, and Bernie is waiting to hear from all interested in this.... __________________ Gary Hampton '86 Z24,173 V6 CF/S #5824 (#78 in 2021)

01-24-2011, 04:43 PM	#2
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01-24-2011, 06:25 PM	#3
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01-24-2011, 08:11 PM	#4
7820 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 201 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ihra tucson! This is what a few of were told by a D7 Track Operator a three months ago. Divisionals: $7,500.00 - Fee to NHRA for the event $5,000.00 - Insurance Fee to NHRA. $15,000.00 - Guarantee the T/S and T/D Purse Notes: We were told me that even tho the track has the same or better insurance coverage that the track MUST pay the $5,000.00 insurance fee. We were also told that the T/S and T/D cars that did qualify DID NOT PAY ENTRY FEES! Were were also told that NHRA gets 10% of the gate. ...again this was told to me and others by a D7 Track Operator.

01-24-2011, 08:50 PM	#7
Jeff Foster Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ihra tucson! Well 7820, the only thing true about that, is all LODRS have to have the same insurance but you don't pay NHRA for it, you pay the insurance carrier. Track has to post the purse for all categories. Wish the fee was only 7500.00 Only thing TD and TS non qualifiers get is they don't have to pay entry for moving to SC.

01-25-2011, 03:48 PM	#8
GarysZ24 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tempe, Az. Posts: 1,270 Likes: 918 Liked 238 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Ihra tucson! Latest news from S.I.R., Anyone who raced at Tucson last year (even once), can call Barb at the track (520) 762-9700, and vote over the phone to either say : Yes to IHRA sanctioning as of Feb. 1, 2011. Yes to NHRA sanctioning as of Sep. 1, 2011 or Yes to their track staying an independent. Note: If you vote for them to go back to NHRA, they will have to be an independent track until Sept. anyway. Voting concludes Sat. at their test n tune. __________________ Gary Hampton '86 Z24,173 V6 CF/S #5824 (#78 in 2021)

01-25-2011, 10:08 PM	#10
Dean Feiock Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pierre, SD Posts: 204 Likes: 0 Liked 49 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Ihra tucson! Toby, No, I don't think that the NHRA sanctioning fees have no bearing on entry fees. They certainly do. That is why I made the statement:"Moreover, if the take at the gate at SIR does not cover the operating costs, they will raise the gate price." To me, the sanctioning body fees, insurance, wages, etc, etc, are all part of operating costs. And for the most part, those fees are fixed and the tracks know going into a season how many cars at each race it will take to turn a profit. But again, the bottom line is the take at the gate must offset the operating costs. If it doesn't, the track will not stay open very long. How many tracks have started charging for camping, oil disposal, etc, etc? Why have they started charging for all these things? They are either greedy or their operating costs have risen. If indeed their operating cost's have risen, they will need to find a way to offset them. That in turn will mean that the cost to the racer's will be increased one way or another. I have spent some time this week talking to Mike at Oahe Speedway. I want to start some race sponsorship to promote a new product I am distributing. He has been very informative about what it really cost's to run a track. As for SIR, I won't pretend to know why they are switching from NHRA to IHRA. Maybe it is because the IHRA fees are less. I don't know. The switch to IHRA was not why I originally posted a reply to this thread. I replied because I wanted to know who was promoting the combo. The orignal call to support the combo as well as IHRA's involvement was very contradicting. Unfortunately, this thread has swirled out of proportion from there. Take care, Dean __________________ Dean Feiock -- Stock 5002