who's car is this?

bigshow2966 · 12-12-2010, 11:32 AM

That is one slick little Rambler.

Rory McNeil · 12-12-2010, 04:41 PM

I am no AMC expert, but I believe the 69 SC/Rambler that were equipped with that scoop were functional, using a vacuum operated flapper door similar to the 1969 Torino/Cyclone and 69/70 Cougars. Is that correct? Also, I believe that the 390 SC/Ramblers were also all 4 speeds, is that also correct? Since this Rambler American 2 door sedan is shown at a NHRA santioned track, in M/SA, how is he allowed to run that scoop, functional or not? Wouldn`t that be like a 68-69 Barracuda with a 340, 383, or 440 Stocker using a SS/AH Hemi hood scoop? Or a cowl induction hood on a 67-68 Z/28, or Boss 429 scoop on a 428 CJ Mustang? Just curious.

jmcarter · 12-12-2010, 05:13 PM

Jeff Lee will address I'm sure but think your correct on the SC. Think the non-functional scoop is a discretionary thing on the part of NHRA tech since it clearly offers no performance advantage. Is it technically incorrect, sure; but it would be chicken-***** to bust him on it just like it was to bust Art for his non-functional louver fenders on his Neon.

Larry Fulton · 12-12-2010, 06:35 PM

Thanks Jeff for the info & link

It's Very Nice... and worth your time to check it out here...

http://www.autobarnclassiccars.com/v....aspx?Item=298

Ed Fernandez · 12-12-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

I am no AMC expert, but I believe the 69 SC/Rambler that were equipped with that scoop were functional, using a vacuum operated flapper door similar to the 1969 Torino/Cyclone and 69/70 Cougars. Is that correct? Also, I believe that the 390 SC/Ramblers were also all 4 speeds, is that also correct? Since this Rambler American 2 door sedan is shown at a NHRA santioned track, in M/SA, how is he allowed to run that scoop, functional or not? Wouldn`t that be like a 68-69 Barracuda with a 340, 383, or 440 Stocker using a SS/AH Hemi hood scoop? Or a cowl induction hood on a 67-68 Z/28, or Boss 429 scoop on a 428 CJ Mustang? Just curious.

Refer back to my post on page 1.It came from the NHRA rulebook.I don't know which one though,the East coast or West coast version.
The SC/Ramblers were all 2 dr non post cars,390,4speed in A and B paint schemes.All had functional ram air setups.They built 1512 of them.They cost $2,995.Road test times were 14.30 with grandma driving.They really would go 13.90s.

bigshow2966 · 12-13-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

They really would go 13.90s.

I saw a box stock one go 13:73 with Terry Richards driving it. To say I was really impressed would be an understatement. (Terry was the local AMC God-Best the cars owner ever ran was 15:30)

Ed Fernandez · 12-13-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bigshow2966

I saw a box stock one go 13:73 with Terry Richards driving it. To say I was really impressed would be an understatement. (Terry was the local AMC God-Best the cars owner ever ran was 15:30)

It didn't hurt the fact that the car weighed less than 3000#.Still impressive.You can't touch a nice one (not a clone) for less than $40K.

Jeff Lee · 12-12-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

I am no AMC expert, but I believe the 69 SC/Rambler that were equipped with that scoop were functional, using a vacuum operated flapper door similar to the 1969 Torino/Cyclone and 69/70 Cougars. Is that correct? Also, I believe that the 390 SC/Ramblers were also all 4 speeds, is that also correct? Since this Rambler American 2 door sedan is shown at a NHRA santioned track, in M/SA, how is he allowed to run that scoop, functional or not? Wouldn`t that be like a 68-69 Barracuda with a 340, 383, or 440 Stocker using a SS/AH Hemi hood scoop? Or a cowl induction hood on a 67-68 Z/28, or Boss 429 scoop on a 428 CJ Mustang? Just curious.

Yes to all the AMC questions, just as Ed presented. Furthermore, you are correct, the flapper is a Ford interchange item.
The issue of this M/SA Rambler scoop was brought up before on this forum. My comment was something like "if legal for show only, I'd make sure I had the rust spots under the scoop!"
Apparently NHRA doesn't care. At one time the rulebook said "mild customizing allowable". I guess this factory scoop could fall under that.

And technically speaking, and an easy fix, the air pan under the SS/H SC/Rambler is a no-no also. But lets just get the car on the track!
If the owner needs to see an application I'm @ 602-418-9797 !

gmonde · 12-12-2010, 07:25 PM

And technically speaking, and an easy fix, the air pan under the SS/H SC/Rambler is a no-no also. But lets just get the car on the track!
If the owner needs to see an application I'm @ 602-418-9797 !

jeff i dont know about the no-no ,,,check out some of the super stock 440 6 pack cars that have sheet metal intakes with an aluminum pan's that are not factory pieces but like jeff says get it on the track cool piece non the less gmonde

Jeff Lee · 12-12-2010, 08:43 PM

Supposed to have stock OEM air filter canister or tub if using a factory ram air system, even in superstock.

12-12-2010, 11:32 AM	#1
bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 654 Likes: 675 Liked 180 Times in 55 Posts	Re: who's car is this? That is one slick little Rambler.

12-12-2010, 04:41 PM	#2
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 317 Liked 1,104 Times in 302 Posts	Re: who's car is this? I am no AMC expert, but I believe the 69 SC/Rambler that were equipped with that scoop were functional, using a vacuum operated flapper door similar to the 1969 Torino/Cyclone and 69/70 Cougars. Is that correct? Also, I believe that the 390 SC/Ramblers were also all 4 speeds, is that also correct? Since this Rambler American 2 door sedan is shown at a NHRA santioned track, in M/SA, how is he allowed to run that scoop, functional or not? Wouldn`t that be like a 68-69 Barracuda with a 340, 383, or 440 Stocker using a SS/AH Hemi hood scoop? Or a cowl induction hood on a 67-68 Z/28, or Boss 429 scoop on a 428 CJ Mustang? Just curious. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

12-12-2010, 05:13 PM	#3
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,296 Likes: 2,383 Liked 3,179 Times in 972 Posts	Re: who's car is this? Jeff Lee will address I'm sure but think your correct on the SC. Think the non-functional scoop is a discretionary thing on the part of NHRA tech since it clearly offers no performance advantage. Is it technically incorrect, sure; but it would be chicken-***** to bust him on it just like it was to bust Art for his non-functional louver fenders on his Neon. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

12-12-2010, 06:35 PM	#4
Larry Fulton Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 271 Likes: 54 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: who's car is this? Thanks Jeff for the info & link It's Very Nice... and worth your time to check it out here... http://www.autobarnclassiccars.com/v....aspx?Item=298 __________________ Larry Fulton

12-12-2010, 07:25 PM	#9
gmonde Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 615 Likes: 56 Liked 165 Times in 59 Posts	Re: who's car is this? And technically speaking, and an easy fix, the air pan under the SS/H SC/Rambler is a no-no also. But lets just get the car on the track! If the owner needs to see an application I'm @ 602-418-9797 ! jeff i dont know about the no-no ,,,check out some of the super stock 440 6 pack cars that have sheet metal intakes with an aluminum pan's that are not factory pieces but like jeff says get it on the track cool piece non the less gmonde

12-12-2010, 08:43 PM	#10
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: who's car is this? Supposed to have stock OEM air filter canister or tub if using a factory ram air system, even in superstock. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX