A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp

Crew Chief · 11-16-2010, 09:08 PM

Anybody wonder where the 235 figure comes from? Think the figure just came out of mid-air? For the answer go to...

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Modular_engine

The 235 comes from Ford when they are converting horsepower numbers to the International System of Units that the rest of the world on the metric system uses. According to wikipedia, Ford says the 4.6L 3-valve engine produces 315 hp (235 kW) and 325 ft-lb torque (440 N-m). In metric terms kW stands for kilowatts and N-m stands for Newton-metre. These are the units of measurement that countries on the metric system use to rate the horsepower and torque of engines.

P.S. All advertisements for the 2010 Mustang with the 281 3-valve engine are 315 hp.

X-TECH MAN · 11-16-2010, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

Anybody wonder where the 235 figure comes from? Think the figure just came out of mid-air? For the answer go to...

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Modular_engine

The 235 comes from Ford when they are converting horsepower numbers to the International System of Units that the rest of the world on the metric system uses. According to wikipedia, Ford says the 4.6L 3-valve engine produces 315 hp (235 kW) and 325 ft-lb torque (440 N-m). In metric terms kW stands for kilowatts and N-m stands for Newton-metre. These are the units of measurement that countries on the metric system use to rate the horsepower and torque of engines.

P.S. All advertisements for the 2010 Mustang with the 281 3-valve engine are 315 hp.

That shows why all the rest of these new combos are out of touch with reality. Time to re rate them by converting back to good ole USA HORSEPOWER ratings.

X-TECH MAN · 11-17-2010, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Zaskowski

1kW = 1.341 hp

Big Blower Motor:
330/435 = 583 hp
330/500 = 670 hp

Might be a little closer

Yes....I used to work with Newton Meters and metric crap before I retired from a Navy Calibration Lab. I wasnt sure if many here knew what I would be talking about.....LOL. I doubt if NHRA would even consider any of the refactoring by this process.

Charley Downing · 11-17-2010, 02:50 PM

330/435 is a small Eaton blower Kevin

X Tech Man when did you become the X part 1960's?

X-TECH MAN · 11-17-2010, 03:11 PM

Bite me charley !

MikeFicacci · 11-17-2010, 03:14 PM

I'm a little slow but did someone really just use the word "small" to describe the 2.3 liter supercharger found on the 2008 Cobra Jet, 638 hp ZR-1 Corvette (8 psi), and 635 horsepower Shelby Super Snake (also at 7-8 psi)?

Just because the 2010's have a MONSTER 4.0 liter blower sitting atop does not make the 2.3 liter small by any stretch of the imagination. Guys have been making over 1,000 hp with 2.3 liters since they came out a long time ago.

Charley Downing · 11-17-2010, 04:36 PM

X tech man don't get so mad. It was a real question. Or were your tech days over by then?

Chuck D REAL NAMES NO GAMES

X-TECH MAN · 11-17-2010, 06:05 PM

If you had read other posts you would know that I worked for NHRA in 1974-75 in Div. 1 with Greg X. Then I started with IHRA (more friendly group) and worked for them taking care of the stock and S/S classes for 22 1/2 years except for a break in the 1980's. I quit in 2001 so I have seen it all. You young guys dont have a clue what it is like to work on a combo for years only to have something like what is happening now with the new cars comeing along and make your hard work and investment turn into obsolete junk. Today it seems to be the status que to write a check instead of building it yourself.

11-16-2010, 09:08 PM	#1
Crew Chief Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 184 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp Anybody wonder where the 235 figure comes from? Think the figure just came out of mid-air? For the answer go to... www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Modular_engine The 235 comes from Ford when they are converting horsepower numbers to the International System of Units that the rest of the world on the metric system uses. According to wikipedia, Ford says the 4.6L 3-valve engine produces 315 hp (235 kW) and 325 ft-lb torque (440 N-m). In metric terms kW stands for kilowatts and N-m stands for Newton-metre. These are the units of measurement that countries on the metric system use to rate the horsepower and torque of engines. P.S. All advertisements for the 2010 Mustang with the 281 3-valve engine are 315 hp.

11-17-2010, 02:50 PM	#4
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp 330/435 is a small Eaton blower Kevin X Tech Man when did you become the X part 1960's? __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 11-17-2010 at 02:53 PM.

11-17-2010, 03:11 PM	#5
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp Bite me charley !

11-17-2010, 03:14 PM	#6
MikeFicacci Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 242 Likes: 1 Liked 19 Times in 2 Posts	Re: A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp I'm a little slow but did someone really just use the word "small" to describe the 2.3 liter supercharger found on the 2008 Cobra Jet, 638 hp ZR-1 Corvette (8 psi), and 635 horsepower Shelby Super Snake (also at 7-8 psi)? Just because the 2010's have a MONSTER 4.0 liter blower sitting atop does not make the 2.3 liter small by any stretch of the imagination. Guys have been making over 1,000 hp with 2.3 liters since they came out a long time ago. __________________ Mike Ficacci Stk 1010

11-17-2010, 04:36 PM	#7
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp X tech man don't get so mad. It was a real question. Or were your tech days over by then? Chuck D REAL NAMES NO GAMES __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 11-17-2010 at 04:38 PM.

11-17-2010, 06:05 PM	#8
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp If you had read other posts you would know that I worked for NHRA in 1974-75 in Div. 1 with Greg X. Then I started with IHRA (more friendly group) and worked for them taking care of the stock and S/S classes for 22 1/2 years except for a break in the 1980's. I quit in 2001 so I have seen it all. You young guys dont have a clue what it is like to work on a combo for years only to have something like what is happening now with the new cars comeing along and make your hard work and investment turn into obsolete junk. Today it seems to be the status que to write a check instead of building it yourself. Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 11-17-2010 at 07:43 PM.