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[FED 387]

Myself when it comes to bracket racing I personally have absolutely NO interest whatsoever in watching or participating in it---If that is what you like to do fine I respect that but it is not something I choose to be involved in. I also like Nascar and when the NFL games are on I watch Nascar as opposed to football---Does not make me a bad person its just what I happen to like. I also do not like peppermint or eggplant but some people do. I still am of the opinion that ALL Bracket racing and that includes SG or S Comp is not legitimate drag racing.
Now as far as the Stock and Super Stock competitors that raced and may even have won Congradulations on a job well done. Comp 387

[Mark Faul]

There's a whopping 28 bracket cars and bikes trying to win the championship. What's that take? 5 minutes to run each session? Give me a break. Like has been said, the top fuel, funny car and alcohol cars took forever! I sat in the stands with some friends Friday during TF qualifying and it was a joke. Took forever with cleanups during the first few pairs until they got to the regular teams.

The new blood for stock and ss will most likely come from these ET participants and their friends....the D6 sportsman rep was asking questions and considering running stock next year to take advantage of his gold card. He wasn't so sure after the weekend was over with all the pro delays. Or if he got on here and heard all the whining about those lowly bracket cars messing up the whole program...

[Rich Biebel]

Bob Glidden once said that if it wasn't for bracket racers, drag racing might have faded away....they kept the tracks in operation during the very dark down period of the '70's

Maybe some people have forgotten how FEW class cars were out there racing back then. No track could have survived this period without the growth of grass roots bracket racing......

I can easily recall the period right after the oil embargo days of 1973 and the next few years. Stock was gone....Super Stock was run off indexes with NO breakout....after a few cars won all the races practically no one showed up and there were NONE of these cars running locally to support the racetracks..........

Today tracks are surviving on T&T'ers and the imports racing friday nights and off days........bracket cars are still a big part of it but not the main part and class cars are about the smallest of the group supporting your local tracks.......

So all class racers owe bracket racers some thanks for keeping things going......I have run both and feel I am a bracket racer more than anything else. I love my bracket racing friends and my class racer friends......

[CBS]

Comp 387.....what planet are you on....you post that on a bracket racing forum....

"not legitimate drag racing"

The Summit cars are fine....fix the track oilers....and most of the issues will go away.....

Rock Haas

[bmac]

Comp387 dont kid yourself you are a bracket racer if comp 387 refers to a comp car with an index that most can run under and try to protect..

[bill dedman]

Maybe it's because I am so old, and I started drag racing in1955, but first impressions are lasting ones, and from the time I started racing, it was probably almost ten years before I saw racing with handicaps and breakouts.

Drag racing was a heads-up, no handicap and no breakout business.

Along came dial-ins, breakouts, and later, indexes and all the other stuff that has evolved as Bracket racing has taken over on a local level. Now, we have active throttle stops, delay boxes, trans-brakes, crossover boxes, and a whole host of electronic aids to improve consistency and the ability to get there early enough, but not too early, round after round.

It's not much like what drag racing was in its early years.

But it's critically important to the fiscal health of what we CALL drag racing, and it probably is the salvation of this kind of racing. Without it, we'd probably all have to find new hobbies...

But to me, (and this is just my own opinion) it's Bracket racing; not drag racing.
It LOOKS like drag racing, and it even SOUNDS like drag racing (well, not so much the cars with active throttle stops), but it's not drag racing.

Drag racing, to me, is two drivers and their cars, trying their best to outrun the guy or girl, in the other lane, heads-up, no holds barred. That is, no handicap, no breakout... first car to the finish line wins. Anything else is NOT "Drag Racing."

As I said, that's just MY opinion.

BTW, I can't afford to run a class legal car, so I have alot of fun Bracket racing... a LOT of fun! But, I don't tell anyone I'm drag racing.... 'cause I'm not.

That doesn't make it less difficult to win than a drag race. On the contrary, Brackets are impossibly hard to win, because of all the hoops you have to jump through...

It's just different. That's all.

Thanks for listening.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

maybe it's because i am so old, and i started drag racing in1955, but first impressions are lasting ones, and from the time i started racing, it was probably almost ten years before i saw racing with handicaps and breakouts.

Drag racing was a heads-up, no handicap and no breakout business.

Along came dial-ins, breakouts, and later, indexes and all the other stuff that has evolved as bracket racing has taken over on a local level. Now, we have active throttle stops, delay boxes, trans-brakes, crossover boxes, and a whole host of electronic aids to improve consistency and the ability to get there early enough, but not too early, round after round.

It's not much like what drag racing was in its early years.

But it's critically important to the fiscal health of what we call drag racing, and it probably is the salvation of this kind of racing. Without it, we'd probably all have to find new hobbies...

But to me, (and this is just my own opinion) it's bracket racing; not drag racing.
It looks like drag racing, and it even sounds like drag racing (well, not so much the cars with active throttle stops), but it's not drag racing.

Drag racing, to me, is two drivers and their cars, trying their best to outrun the guy or girl, in the other lane, heads-up, no holds barred. That is, no handicap, no breakout... First car to the finish line wins. Anything else is not "drag racing."

as i said, that's just my opinion.

Btw, i can't afford to run a class legal car, so i have alot of fun bracket racing... A lot of fun! But, i don't tell anyone i'm drag racing.... 'cause i'm not.

That doesn't make it less difficult to win than a drag race. On the contrary, brackets are impossibly hard to win, because of all the hoops you have to jump through...

It's just different. That's all.

Thanks for listening.

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[M Lefkes]

I am reasonably sure I know exactly who FED 387 is, that being said don't recall ever seeing his name on any qualifing sheets.

[BBF67]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Maybe it's because I am so old, and I started drag racing in1955, but first impressions are lasting ones, and from the time I started racing, it was probably almost ten years before I saw racing with handicaps and breakouts.

Drag racing was a heads-up, no handicap and no breakout business.

Drag racing, to me, is two drivers and their cars, trying their best to outrun the guy or girl, in the other lane, heads-up, no holds barred. That is, no handicap, no breakout... first car to the finish line wins. Anything else is NOT "Drag Racing."

Yeah, just don't let it be in a Top Fooler, Haha car, Top Alcohol leaker, Top Alcohol haha leaker or any new car that is not factored with the correct horsepower.

What a crock of.....!

If it had not been for handicap dial-in drag racing, you and 99% of the ones that love drag racing would have been stuck in the bleachers years ago because it would have been a $$$$ only game for a select few with deep pockets. At least a regular guy can race today in brackets, Stock, SS or any other venue that has a dial-in.

And that's my opinion.

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

......Drag racing, to me, is two drivers and their cars, trying their best to outrun the guy or girl, in the other lane, heads-up, no holds barred. That is, no handicap, no breakout... first car to the finish line wins. Anything else is NOT "Drag Racing."

As I said, that's just MY opinion.

BTW, I can't afford to run a class legal car, so I have alot of fun Bracket racing... a LOT of fun! But, I don't tell anyone I'm drag racing.... 'cause I'm not.

That doesn't make it less difficult to win than a drag race. On the contrary, Brackets are impossibly hard to win, because of all the hoops you have to jump through...

It's just different. That's all.

Thanks for listening.

X3 !

My wife and I are Saturday Night "Bracket" racers. When people ask us what type of racing we do, we say we bracket race. We do not say we drag race.
There are 2 types of racers at the dragstrip and I can't afford to be a drag racer, so I bracket race for fun.

Next year we will be running Pure Stock, and unless we happen to pair up with someone in the same class, then we will be "bracket" racing.