A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp

JRyan · 11-15-2010, 03:16 PM

Charlie.
The 140hp 307 Olds is rated 240 hp. The 85 flat top 305 in a Camaro is rated 262, an 82 dish piston Camaro is 244 and the Malibu 230. Wades 283 is rated 217hp and the 138hp roller Olds is 213hp.
Both of the engines rated less then the 281 have far less compression and the 283 has a .399 lift cam. The roller 307 has a horrible intake and head design.
So @ 235 it may not be greatly underfactored but it should be a lot better then the dished piston 305 or 140hp Olds for certain.

Rick Ryan

Charley Downing · 11-15-2010, 03:25 PM

The 240hp olds 307 is a very bad combo. I was looking more at the 213hp olds 307 with a 400 plus lift cam and a 800 carb.

JRyan · 11-15-2010, 03:49 PM

You're right big carb, good cam. But again an absolute horrible intake and bad heads in stock form. Actually the heads aren't even that good in super stock form. They're hardly good enough to make up the hp difference in super stock. Some have been run with some success.
We built one for a good friend of ours. It's far from trick and it will run the index and a touch better. However with all the good stuff it will still never set the world on fire. It's probably capable of .70 under around here in our great air we have. I personally still wouldn't say it's any better of a combo then the 140hp though.
I would love too build one of these new Mustangs however. I think it'll make a good car.

keith ohanesian · 11-15-2010, 06:50 PM

It has a 65 mm throttle body!CNC'd 3 valve head! That thing should start at 260!
I don't care let those thing run with us.. I grew up watching Dale Sr. race and learned how to put someone into the wall.

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Originally Posted by JRyan

Charlie.
The 140hp 307 Olds is rated 240 hp. The 85 flat top 305 in a Camaro is rated 262, an 82 dish piston Camaro is 244 and the Malibu 230. Wades 283 is rated 217hp and the 138hp roller Olds is 213hp.
Both of the engines rated less then the 281 have far less compression and the 283 has a .399 lift cam. The roller 307 has a horrible intake and head design.
So @ 235 it may not be greatly underfactored but it should be a lot better then the dished piston 305 or 140hp Olds for certain.

Rick Ryan

11-15-2010, 03:16 PM	#1
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp Charlie. The 140hp 307 Olds is rated 240 hp. The 85 flat top 305 in a Camaro is rated 262, an 82 dish piston Camaro is 244 and the Malibu 230. Wades 283 is rated 217hp and the 138hp roller Olds is 213hp. Both of the engines rated less then the 281 have far less compression and the 283 has a .399 lift cam. The roller 307 has a horrible intake and head design. So @ 235 it may not be greatly underfactored but it should be a lot better then the dished piston 305 or 140hp Olds for certain. Rick Ryan

11-15-2010, 03:25 PM	#2
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp The 240hp olds 307 is a very bad combo. I was looking more at the 213hp olds 307 with a 400 plus lift cam and a 800 carb. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK

11-15-2010, 03:49 PM	#3
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: A gift from Ford for the lower classes @235hp You're right big carb, good cam. But again an absolute horrible intake and bad heads in stock form. Actually the heads aren't even that good in super stock form. They're hardly good enough to make up the hp difference in super stock. Some have been run with some success. We built one for a good friend of ours. It's far from trick and it will run the index and a touch better. However with all the good stuff it will still never set the world on fire. It's probably capable of .70 under around here in our great air we have. I personally still wouldn't say it's any better of a combo then the 140hp though. I would love too build one of these new Mustangs however. I think it'll make a good car.