Pomona on Monday-Stock Eliminator

[david ring]

Originally Posted by jmcarter

So you're saying bracket racers don't deserve to have their true national championship race at a National Event? I sure hope not.

Jim,

I'm with you all the way on this one!

[DemonChick]

The Summit National ET Finals bracket cars have been racing off at Pomona for the Nat. Championship for 10 years now.
The brackets only go to the BIG stage once a year! Remember, they are on bottom of totem pole at that race but they don't care because it is a ONE chance race of being the National ET champion.

We can bet if you were in that position to be racing at the bracket finals in Pomona you wouldn't be b*tching about it.

Yes I am a bracket racer and also crew/lover of S/SS.

[FED 387]

Myself when it comes to bracket racing I personally have absolutely NO interest whatsoever in watching or participating in it---If that is what you like to do fine I respect that but it is not something I choose to be involved in. I also like Nascar and when the NFL games are on I watch Nascar as opposed to football---Does not make me a bad person its just what I happen to like. I also do not like peppermint or eggplant but some people do. I still am of the opinion that ALL Bracket racing and that includes SG or S Comp is not legitimate drag racing.
Now as far as the Stock and Super Stock competitors that raced and may even have won Congradulations on a job well done. Comp 387

[Mark Faul]

There's a whopping 28 bracket cars and bikes trying to win the championship. What's that take? 5 minutes to run each session? Give me a break. Like has been said, the top fuel, funny car and alcohol cars took forever! I sat in the stands with some friends Friday during TF qualifying and it was a joke. Took forever with cleanups during the first few pairs until they got to the regular teams.

The new blood for stock and ss will most likely come from these ET participants and their friends....the D6 sportsman rep was asking questions and considering running stock next year to take advantage of his gold card. He wasn't so sure after the weekend was over with all the pro delays. Or if he got on here and heard all the whining about those lowly bracket cars messing up the whole program...

[Rich Biebel]

Bob Glidden once said that if it wasn't for bracket racers, drag racing might have faded away....they kept the tracks in operation during the very dark down period of the '70's

Maybe some people have forgotten how FEW class cars were out there racing back then. No track could have survived this period without the growth of grass roots bracket racing......

I can easily recall the period right after the oil embargo days of 1973 and the next few years. Stock was gone....Super Stock was run off indexes with NO breakout....after a few cars won all the races practically no one showed up and there were NONE of these cars running locally to support the racetracks..........

Today tracks are surviving on T&T'ers and the imports racing friday nights and off days........bracket cars are still a big part of it but not the main part and class cars are about the smallest of the group supporting your local tracks.......

So all class racers owe bracket racers some thanks for keeping things going......I have run both and feel I am a bracket racer more than anything else. I love my bracket racing friends and my class racer friends......

[CBS]

Comp 387.....what planet are you on....you post that on a bracket racing forum....

"not legitimate drag racing"

The Summit cars are fine....fix the track oilers....and most of the issues will go away.....

Rock Haas

[bmac]

Comp387 dont kid yourself you are a bracket racer if comp 387 refers to a comp car with an index that most can run under and try to protect..

[Myron Piatek]

Originally Posted by DemonChick

The Summit National ET Finals bracket cars have been racing off at Pomona for the Nat. Championship for 10 years now.
The brackets only go to the BIG stage once a year! Remember, they are on bottom of totem pole at that race but they don't care because it is a ONE chance race of being the National ET champion.

We can bet if you were in that position to be racing at the bracket finals in Pomona you wouldn't be b*tching about it.

Yes I am a bracket racer and also crew/lover of S/SS.

Actually, NHRA had a Bracket World Championship for the FIRST time back in 1980 at the World Finals in Ontario! I was there! Then they brought it back many years later.

Bracket racing is the breeding ground for many class racers - full tree as well as pro tree. There are more important things to complain about.

[bill dedman]

Maybe it's because I am so old, and I started drag racing in1955, but first impressions are lasting ones, and from the time I started racing, it was probably almost ten years before I saw racing with handicaps and breakouts.

Drag racing was a heads-up, no handicap and no breakout business.

Along came dial-ins, breakouts, and later, indexes and all the other stuff that has evolved as Bracket racing has taken over on a local level. Now, we have active throttle stops, delay boxes, trans-brakes, crossover boxes, and a whole host of electronic aids to improve consistency and the ability to get there early enough, but not too early, round after round.

It's not much like what drag racing was in its early years.

But it's critically important to the fiscal health of what we CALL drag racing, and it probably is the salvation of this kind of racing. Without it, we'd probably all have to find new hobbies...

But to me, (and this is just my own opinion) it's Bracket racing; not drag racing.
It LOOKS like drag racing, and it even SOUNDS like drag racing (well, not so much the cars with active throttle stops), but it's not drag racing.

Drag racing, to me, is two drivers and their cars, trying their best to outrun the guy or girl, in the other lane, heads-up, no holds barred. That is, no handicap, no breakout... first car to the finish line wins. Anything else is NOT "Drag Racing."

As I said, that's just MY opinion.

BTW, I can't afford to run a class legal car, so I have alot of fun Bracket racing... a LOT of fun! But, I don't tell anyone I'm drag racing.... 'cause I'm not.

That doesn't make it less difficult to win than a drag race. On the contrary, Brackets are impossibly hard to win, because of all the hoops you have to jump through...

It's just different. That's all.

Thanks for listening.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

maybe it's because i am so old, and i started drag racing in1955, but first impressions are lasting ones, and from the time i started racing, it was probably almost ten years before i saw racing with handicaps and breakouts.

Drag racing was a heads-up, no handicap and no breakout business.

Along came dial-ins, breakouts, and later, indexes and all the other stuff that has evolved as bracket racing has taken over on a local level. Now, we have active throttle stops, delay boxes, trans-brakes, crossover boxes, and a whole host of electronic aids to improve consistency and the ability to get there early enough, but not too early, round after round.

It's not much like what drag racing was in its early years.

But it's critically important to the fiscal health of what we call drag racing, and it probably is the salvation of this kind of racing. Without it, we'd probably all have to find new hobbies...

But to me, (and this is just my own opinion) it's bracket racing; not drag racing.
It looks like drag racing, and it even sounds like drag racing (well, not so much the cars with active throttle stops), but it's not drag racing.

Drag racing, to me, is two drivers and their cars, trying their best to outrun the guy or girl, in the other lane, heads-up, no holds barred. That is, no handicap, no breakout... First car to the finish line wins. Anything else is not "drag racing."

as i said, that's just my opinion.

Btw, i can't afford to run a class legal car, so i have alot of fun bracket racing... A lot of fun! But, i don't tell anyone i'm drag racing.... 'cause i'm not.

That doesn't make it less difficult to win than a drag race. On the contrary, brackets are impossibly hard to win, because of all the hoops you have to jump through...

It's just different. That's all.

Thanks for listening.

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