NHRA, Atco and my thoughts

69Cobra · 10-08-2010, 09:27 AM

Well said Kenny!

jmcarter · 10-08-2010, 10:08 AM

Well said indeed; weather worked against those competing at Virginia next weekend (or wanting to attend Reynolds in order to claim another Divisional) and at this point in the season I don't know what reschedule would have not created hardships. Also, NHRA can be commended for allowing racers to withdraw when it became obvious that Thursday racing wasn't going to happen.

Jack Matyas · 10-08-2010, 12:00 PM

Kenny -- Most of the BS i've seen has come from racers who have "other" agendas and as much as they have right to be heard it shouldn't be force fed to the rest of us .As much as the NHRA would like to control where and when the races are to be run the one factor that is out of their reach is the weather - no matter how hard they try .Most of the NHRA bashing i've seen is done without suggestions of what a solution might be - better ideas will always be heard as some have found - just shoot 'em an e-mail and try at least before you cuss them . Recently several issues have been resolved by just contacting Director Lang right here in Division One.

And like you Ken it has been suggested that i'm in NHRA's pocket in one way or another - fact is i've been racing with them more than forty years and I like there deal - perfect - hell no .......but a better game than any other - and if we don't support them they'll surely go away some day .

Lastly - think big picture - not just this race or another .

Alan Roehrich · 10-08-2010, 01:08 PM

I think there's a huge difference between a valid and fair criticism, and just plain whining. Atco is a good example. They did everything they could to get the race in, and were left with little or no choice as to rescheduling. It's hard to find any real fault with Atco or the Division 1 staff over that race.

The truth is, other than some scheduling issues and that sort of thing, most people don't have a ton of real complaints about the division level people (especially now that Bill Holt has retired). It's Glendora that rubs people the wrong way. And that's because they are so detached from those of us who race at the sportsman level.

So I do agree with Ken, for the most part. At least with regards to NHRA on the division level, and most of the tracks as well. And I'd say that at least some, if not most of the problems that may exist at the division level are caused by Glendora.

There's nothing wrong with fair and valid constructive criticism, delivered in a reasonable tone. But there's nothing to be gained by trashing people who don't really deserve criticism, and for the wrong reason, to boot. Do not forget that a lot of the guys at the division level are our friends, and they work very hard for us.

10-08-2010, 09:27 AM	#1
69Cobra Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California, Ky Posts: 669 Likes: 61 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: NHRA, Atco and my thoughts Well said Kenny! __________________ Kris Rachford 69 Cobra 428CJ 4 Speed C/S 3032

10-08-2010, 10:08 AM	#2
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,296 Likes: 2,383 Liked 3,179 Times in 972 Posts	Re: NHRA, Atco and my thoughts Well said indeed; weather worked against those competing at Virginia next weekend (or wanting to attend Reynolds in order to claim another Divisional) and at this point in the season I don't know what reschedule would have not created hardships. Also, NHRA can be commended for allowing racers to withdraw when it became obvious that Thursday racing wasn't going to happen. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

10-08-2010, 12:00 PM	#3
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,930 Likes: 406 Liked 2,051 Times in 399 Posts	Re: NHRA, Atco and my thoughts Kenny -- Most of the BS i've seen has come from racers who have "other" agendas and as much as they have right to be heard it shouldn't be force fed to the rest of us .As much as the NHRA would like to control where and when the races are to be run the one factor that is out of their reach is the weather - no matter how hard they try .Most of the NHRA bashing i've seen is done without suggestions of what a solution might be - better ideas will always be heard as some have found - just shoot 'em an e-mail and try at least before you cuss them . Recently several issues have been resolved by just contacting Director Lang right here in Division One. And like you Ken it has been suggested that i'm in NHRA's pocket in one way or another - fact is i've been racing with them more than forty years and I like there deal - perfect - hell no .......but a better game than any other - and if we don't support them they'll surely go away some day . Lastly - think big picture - not just this race or another . __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO

10-08-2010, 01:08 PM	#4
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,113 Likes: 1,571 Liked 1,826 Times in 414 Posts	Re: NHRA, Atco and my thoughts I think there's a huge difference between a valid and fair criticism, and just plain whining. Atco is a good example. They did everything they could to get the race in, and were left with little or no choice as to rescheduling. It's hard to find any real fault with Atco or the Division 1 staff over that race. The truth is, other than some scheduling issues and that sort of thing, most people don't have a ton of real complaints about the division level people (especially now that Bill Holt has retired). It's Glendora that rubs people the wrong way. And that's because they are so detached from those of us who race at the sportsman level. So I do agree with Ken, for the most part. At least with regards to NHRA on the division level, and most of the tracks as well. And I'd say that at least some, if not most of the problems that may exist at the division level are caused by Glendora. There's nothing wrong with fair and valid constructive criticism, delivered in a reasonable tone. But there's nothing to be gained by trashing people who don't really deserve criticism, and for the wrong reason, to boot. Do not forget that a lot of the guys at the division level are our friends, and they work very hard for us. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S