How can we fix NHRA

Bryan Worner · 10-07-2010, 09:43 AM

As I said on another post, someone should approach the sheik about having stock and super stock in the ADRL.

Rich196 · 10-07-2010, 09:48 AM

How can we fix NHRA?......Didn't your Parents teach you anything.......YOU CAN FIX STUPID!!!!!

Bob Pagano · 10-07-2010, 09:54 AM

As soon as you add S & SS to the ADRL nhra will refuse to let them use the race tracks, remember all the problems they had at start up.......nhra said no and surely will say no to S & SS.

BKSG1198 · 10-07-2010, 10:11 AM

Sorry guys but, I think it's too late unless someone starts a new association. I'm not saying NHRA has been or ever will be perfect but, in the past few years things have made a turn for the worse. It used to be the higher above people were ex-racers and somewhat understand what it's like to be a sportsman racer now, it's turned into a bunch of pencil pushers who only care about the bottom line and $$ signs. It's turned into "How many rounds can we get into 1 day so we can clear out the sportsman pits and park spectators". Could anyone imagine if Bruton's plans to buy NHRA went through? There would be no .90 Classes or Stk or Super Stk and Maybe no Comp because they don't fill up the stands with Fans like the pukers do. I think that's why your seeing more and more associations popping up and normal NHRA racers are running more of these races and putting the Divisional and Nationals on the Back Burner. Dave Ley runs an awesome association in the East Coast Stk/SS, You have the New Super Comp Assoc and MASGA on the East Coast and hopefully come next year we can try to get all 3 together for a few races and it will be similar to a Divisional Event. I think the only way you make it better is to have each division have 7 or 8 Divisional Races, eliminate Us from National Events and have each division have 2 or 3 Sportsnationals (I know it's tough in the Northwest) (Still get a Wally because we all know thats what racers want) count all your races and have the same point system as now. Put TAFC, TAD and Pro Mods as fillers for the Pros so they can fix the motors in 90 minutes and this way we don't have to take a week off to go racing. Just my .02 cents....

CycloneFE · 10-07-2010, 11:08 AM

How do you stop a fully loaded freight train, going down hill with no brakes?

Ken Haase · 10-07-2010, 11:41 AM

Not really all that hard Cyclone. Just tear up a few sections of rails.I'm confident we all know what the 'rail sections' are.

CycloneFE · 10-07-2010, 11:55 AM

Ken, That will "stop" it but I don't think it will save the train. Oh, I guess I did forget to mention that huh. LOL

Bob Pagano · 10-07-2010, 12:44 PM

BKSG you dont get it, Dave Ley's program dose not compeat with nhra. As soon as you try and run a sportsmen race that is in direct competition with nhra they will not let there sanctioned tracks run the event. You need to get their approval first and you wont get it. The only way is to dismantle nhra, once its gone you will have all the tracks open for your event. If you dont believe me look it up its in writing.

Jim Wahl · 10-07-2010, 12:57 PM

What I would like to know is what ever happened to the idea that there would eventually be a Sportsnational race in every Division? Len Imbrogno told me that was the goal, but they haven't added any Sportsnationals in several years. Still only three. Jim

BKSG1198 · 10-07-2010, 01:23 PM

Bob,
I do get it. I never said anything about competing with NHRA. That is like David vs. Goliath for anyone. I understand the whole deal with Dave Ley's association as I help out with other .90 Associations on the East Coast. All I was saying was that we will never have a "Race" at a NHRA track on the same weekend as a NHRA Divisional or National Event in the same area but, we have had Stk/SS, SG and SC at the same track on the same weekend. My point is that "You can't fix NHRA, no matter how hard you try, it is what it is". The easiest solution is to let the sportsman and pros be 2 totally different organizations. 1 with just the Pros and Alky and 1 with Comp down to Super Street. It would prevent people from having to take millions of days off from work in which jobs are being lost everyday, Kepping it somewhat local to save on travel costs and without Alky there we might be able to do 2 races in 1 weekend. I'm just pointing out that if there are other options out there for anybody who still loves NHRA racing without the BS and Frustration.

10-07-2010, 09:43 AM	#1
Bryan Worner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 825 Likes: 136 Liked 535 Times in 86 Posts	Re: How can we fix NHRA As I said on another post, someone should approach the sheik about having stock and super stock in the ADRL.

10-07-2010, 09:48 AM	#2
Rich196 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How can we fix NHRA How can we fix NHRA?......Didn't your Parents teach you anything.......YOU CAN FIX STUPID!!!!!

10-07-2010, 09:54 AM	#3
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 241 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: How can we fix NHRA As soon as you add S & SS to the ADRL nhra will refuse to let them use the race tracks, remember all the problems they had at start up.......nhra said no and surely will say no to S & SS. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

10-07-2010, 10:11 AM	#4
BKSG1198 VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vineland, NJ Posts: 2,630 Likes: 96 Liked 1,286 Times in 393 Posts	Re: How can we fix NHRA Sorry guys but, I think it's too late unless someone starts a new association. I'm not saying NHRA has been or ever will be perfect but, in the past few years things have made a turn for the worse. It used to be the higher above people were ex-racers and somewhat understand what it's like to be a sportsman racer now, it's turned into a bunch of pencil pushers who only care about the bottom line and $$ signs. It's turned into "How many rounds can we get into 1 day so we can clear out the sportsman pits and park spectators". Could anyone imagine if Bruton's plans to buy NHRA went through? There would be no .90 Classes or Stk or Super Stk and Maybe no Comp because they don't fill up the stands with Fans like the pukers do. I think that's why your seeing more and more associations popping up and normal NHRA racers are running more of these races and putting the Divisional and Nationals on the Back Burner. Dave Ley runs an awesome association in the East Coast Stk/SS, You have the New Super Comp Assoc and MASGA on the East Coast and hopefully come next year we can try to get all 3 together for a few races and it will be similar to a Divisional Event. I think the only way you make it better is to have each division have 7 or 8 Divisional Races, eliminate Us from National Events and have each division have 2 or 3 Sportsnationals (I know it's tough in the Northwest) (Still get a Wally because we all know thats what racers want) count all your races and have the same point system as now. Put TAFC, TAD and Pro Mods as fillers for the Pros so they can fix the motors in 90 minutes and this way we don't have to take a week off to go racing. Just my .02 cents....

10-07-2010, 11:08 AM	#5
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: How can we fix NHRA How do you stop a fully loaded freight train, going down hill with no brakes?

10-07-2010, 11:41 AM	#6
Ken Haase Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 233 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How can we fix NHRA Not really all that hard Cyclone. Just tear up a few sections of rails.I'm confident we all know what the 'rail sections' are.

10-07-2010, 11:55 AM	#7
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: How can we fix NHRA Ken, That will "stop" it but I don't think it will save the train. Oh, I guess I did forget to mention that huh. LOL

10-07-2010, 12:44 PM	#8
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 241 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: How can we fix NHRA BKSG you dont get it, Dave Ley's program dose not compeat with nhra. As soon as you try and run a sportsmen race that is in direct competition with nhra they will not let there sanctioned tracks run the event. You need to get their approval first and you wont get it. The only way is to dismantle nhra, once its gone you will have all the tracks open for your event. If you dont believe me look it up its in writing. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

10-07-2010, 12:57 PM	#9
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: How can we fix NHRA What I would like to know is what ever happened to the idea that there would eventually be a Sportsnational race in every Division? Len Imbrogno told me that was the goal, but they haven't added any Sportsnationals in several years. Still only three. Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

10-07-2010, 01:23 PM	#10
BKSG1198 VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vineland, NJ Posts: 2,630 Likes: 96 Liked 1,286 Times in 393 Posts	Re: How can we fix NHRA Bob, I do get it. I never said anything about competing with NHRA. That is like David vs. Goliath for anyone. I understand the whole deal with Dave Ley's association as I help out with other .90 Associations on the East Coast. All I was saying was that we will never have a "Race" at a NHRA track on the same weekend as a NHRA Divisional or National Event in the same area but, we have had Stk/SS, SG and SC at the same track on the same weekend. My point is that "You can't fix NHRA, no matter how hard you try, it is what it is". The easiest solution is to let the sportsman and pros be 2 totally different organizations. 1 with just the Pros and Alky and 1 with Comp down to Super Street. It would prevent people from having to take millions of days off from work in which jobs are being lost everyday, Kepping it somewhat local to save on travel costs and without Alky there we might be able to do 2 races in 1 weekend. I'm just pointing out that if there are other options out there for anybody who still loves NHRA racing without the BS and Frustration.