What would you do with the current CJ and DP car situation?

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Why do you people think this is about brands? These cars are bogus and everyone on this forum knows it. Ask my buddy Verne Buchannon who is a long time Ford racer what he thinks about them. These cars should not be in the traditional stock classes no matter what car companies pu them out there.

Because that is all they have. The supporters have to play "what if" games to post any form of argument. They won't let facts get in the way of a good discussion.

Don

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Dgal

Because that is all they have. The supporters have to play "what if" games to post any form of argument. They won't let facts get in the way of a good discussion.

Don

agreed. I no more want to race an LS7 powered camaro or a blown vette heads up than I do a challenger DP or a CJ mustang. I do think it would be cool to see the big three go after each other, but not at the expense of the rest of stock eliminator.

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

agreed. I no more want to race an LS7 powered camaro or a blown vette heads up than I do a challenger DP or a CJ mustang. I do think it would be cool to see the big three go after each other, but not at the expense of the rest of stock eliminator.

Chad,

Do you know the main reason that you won't see too many if any of the new Camaros as Stockers or SS? They are so freaking wide you can't get them in the stackers or enclosed trailers that many racers own. They may be open trailer only cars which isn't such a bad deal, IMHO.

Don

[Harry 6674]

The nose on the camaros resemble a german half-track. Sorry.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Dgal

Chad,

Do you know the main reason that you won't see too many if any of the new Camaros as Stockers or SS? They are so freaking wide you can't get them in the stackers or enclosed trailers that many racers own. They may be open trailer only cars which isn't such a bad deal, IMHO.

Don

i see a whole new market for liftgate-upper deck stackers

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Dgal

Chad,

Do you know the main reason that you won't see too many if any of the new Camaros as Stockers or SS? They are so freaking wide you can't get them in the stackers or enclosed trailers that many racers own. They may be open trailer only cars which isn't such a bad deal, IMHO.

Don

Well, the hp ratings are also honest.

Chad said: the 2010 is rated at 540, and the NHRA factor is 435

That makes no sense at all.

[dwydendorf]

Originally Posted by Dgal

Because that is all they have. The supporters have to play "what if" games to post any form of argument. They won't let facts get in the way of a good discussion.

Don

Well here is something to think about. In say 1970, when the 68 1/2 and 69 Mustang 428 Cobra Jets and 69 396 and 427 Camaros were only a year or two old, how many of you would have defended a 1930 model T being obsoleted by the new Mustangs and Camaros? You are talking about 40 year old cars being obsoleted by new technology. Don't you think after 40 years someone could come up with something better?

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by dwydendorf

Well here is something to think about. In say 1970, when the 68 1/2 and 69 Mustang 428 Cobra Jets and 69 396 and 427 Camaros were only a year or two old, how many of you would have defended a 1930 model T being obsoleted by the new Mustangs and Camaros? You are talking about 40 year old cars being obsoleted by new technology. Don't you think after 40 years someone could come up with something better?

1930 Model T Stockers? Were they in the class guides?

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by dwydendorf

Well here is something to think about. In say 1970, when the 68 1/2 and 69 Mustang 428 Cobra Jets and 69 396 and 427 Camaros were only a year or two old, how many of you would have defended a 1930 model T being obsoleted by the new Mustangs and Camaros? You are talking about 40 year old cars being obsoleted by new technology. Don't you think after 40 years someone could come up with something better?

if the new cars carried the same HP factor as the old model T and had to race them heads up, then yes I would. However that's a straw man/apples and oranges comparison that's a joke. No one is arguing that the technology isn't better, but the hp factors are dishonest at best.

[dwydendorf]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

if the new cars carried the same HP factor as the old model T and had to race them heads up, then yes I would. However that's a straw man/apples and oranges comparison that's a joke. No one is arguing that the technology isn't better, but the hp factors are dishonest at best.

The 69 428 cj was rated at 335hp which was underfactored at the time along with the 69 255 hp 350 and the 67-69 290 hp z-28 Camaro when they came out. How is it any different today?