Racing fairness versus Circus attendance - Page 5

Bernie Cunningham · 09-21-2010, 10:41 PM

HUH, I thought everybody wanted SPORTSNATIONALS and we got 'em, isn't this discussion about the same kind of event ???????? What the hell happened ???

Now I'm confused ??!!

Adger Smith · 09-21-2010, 10:42 PM

Dick,
We had to deal with the Byron curfew at the first US Class Nationals.. just made it!!
I would think in this economy the next USCN's will only draw around 300 cars instead of the original 400.

Bunkster · 09-21-2010, 11:03 PM

One driver...one car.

None of that dual entry crap that the likes of Cotton Perry used to pull.

SS Engine Guy · 09-21-2010, 11:36 PM

Let someone like Nitro Joe do the factoring and sell weight bars at tech. Use procedes to fun payouts.

Alan Roehrich · 09-22-2010, 01:48 AM

With regards to the idea of having an event or events at Bowling Green:

I don't know of anyone who has complained about Bowling Green being exceptionally expensive to rent.

Bowling Green has been extremely supportive of Stock and Super Stock, they've run a combo series for the last couple of years, with support from Comp Cams. The track prep has been pretty good too, and I honestly can't say that about every track we've been to.

Bowling Green hosts the big Buick event for a 3 day weekend, that's a independent group that has come back there every year for a really long time. So evidently Bowling Green is doing something they like, a lot.

The biggest problem with Bowling Green is it gets really hot in the summer, but then most places in the south do. The solution to that is to try for a date in April, May, late September, or October. The next problem is the fact that NHRA is the sanctioning body at Bowling Green. That actually could end up being a bigger problem than the heat in the summer.

If they can put on a couple of big foot brake bracket races at Bristol, then the two biggest obstacles to doing a big class event at Bristol, Norwalk, or Charlotte, would be the sanctioning body and getting the racers to "walk the walk" and show up.

danny waters sr · 09-22-2010, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

I would say that you would make everyone run off of the NHRA indexes where one exists. If there is no NHRA class (GT, CM, FWD) then use the IHRA -.3 that would be the only truly fair way to do it.

IHRA -.3 Index will not help draw high car count.I thought this was to get as many cars as you can and already this idea would just run more cars off.Remember some cars before NHRA 's gift could at least race as all some could do was run only 3 under. Just my . 02

Adger Smith · 09-22-2010, 08:51 AM

Danny,
What you are saying is IHRA racers that run off a .3 softer index need to run off that IHRA index instead of the NHRA index. Do you have any suggestions as to how to identify racers that should be allowed to run off the -.3 index? I don't remember the number, but if my memory hasn't failed, at the first USCN we had a very small number of IHRA cars that supported the race.
Just a thought: To make the car count even better and include more racers just run off the "old" NHRA index before the -.3. That would allow all the NHRA cars that could only run the old index or .3 under to get out of the garage and race, too.
Just my .02.. What do you think?

BlueOval Ralph · 09-22-2010, 09:15 AM

Just run off the records like it use to be! Let the crying begin.

X-TECH MAN · 09-22-2010, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

With regards to the idea of having an event or events at Bowling Green:

I don't know of anyone who has complained about Bowling Green being exceptionally expensive to rent.

Bowling Green has been extremely supportive of Stock and Super Stock, they've run a combo series for the last couple of years, with support from Comp Cams. The track prep has been pretty good too, and I honestly can't say that about every track we've been to.

Bowling Green hosts the big Buick event for a 3 day weekend, that's a independent group that has come back there every year for a really long time. So evidently Bowling Green is doing something they like, a lot.

The biggest problem with Bowling Green is it gets really hot in the summer, but then most places in the south do. The solution to that is to try for a date in April, May, late September, or October. The next problem is the fact that NHRA is the sanctioning body at Bowling Green. That actually could end up being a bigger problem than the heat in the summer.

If they can put on a couple of big foot brake bracket races at Bristol, then the two biggest obstacles to doing a big class event at Bristol, Norwalk, or Charlotte, would be the sanctioning body and getting the racers to "walk the walk" and show up.

I repeat......Bil Bader has shown interest in this in the recent past. NHRA does not own him.

X-TECH MAN · 09-22-2010, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

Just run off the records like it use to be! Let the crying begin.

Make it all HEADS UP......LOL. Just kidding.

09-21-2010, 10:41 PM	#41
Bernie Cunningham Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 560 Likes: 46 Liked 52 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Racing fairness versus Circus attendance HUH, I thought everybody wanted SPORTSNATIONALS and we got 'em, isn't this discussion about the same kind of event ???????? What the hell happened ??? Now I'm confused ??!! __________________ Bernie Cunningham 7053 STK

09-21-2010, 10:42 PM	#42
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: Racing fairness versus Circus attendance Dick, We had to deal with the Byron curfew at the first US Class Nationals.. just made it!! I would think in this economy the next USCN's will only draw around 300 cars instead of the original 400. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

09-21-2010, 11:03 PM	#43
Bunkster Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 307 Likes: 0 Liked 43 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Racing fairness versus Circus attendance One driver...one car. None of that dual entry crap that the likes of Cotton Perry used to pull.

09-21-2010, 11:36 PM	#44
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Racing fairness versus Circus attendance Let someone like Nitro Joe do the factoring and sell weight bars at tech. Use procedes to fun payouts. Last edited by SS Engine Guy; 09-21-2010 at 11:39 PM.

09-22-2010, 01:48 AM	#45
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,125 Likes: 1,582 Liked 1,879 Times in 422 Posts	Re: Racing fairness versus Circus attendance With regards to the idea of having an event or events at Bowling Green: I don't know of anyone who has complained about Bowling Green being exceptionally expensive to rent. Bowling Green has been extremely supportive of Stock and Super Stock, they've run a combo series for the last couple of years, with support from Comp Cams. The track prep has been pretty good too, and I honestly can't say that about every track we've been to. Bowling Green hosts the big Buick event for a 3 day weekend, that's a independent group that has come back there every year for a really long time. So evidently Bowling Green is doing something they like, a lot. The biggest problem with Bowling Green is it gets really hot in the summer, but then most places in the south do. The solution to that is to try for a date in April, May, late September, or October. The next problem is the fact that NHRA is the sanctioning body at Bowling Green. That actually could end up being a bigger problem than the heat in the summer. If they can put on a couple of big foot brake bracket races at Bristol, then the two biggest obstacles to doing a big class event at Bristol, Norwalk, or Charlotte, would be the sanctioning body and getting the racers to "walk the walk" and show up. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

09-22-2010, 08:51 AM	#47
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: Racing fairness versus Circus attendance Danny, What you are saying is IHRA racers that run off a .3 softer index need to run off that IHRA index instead of the NHRA index. Do you have any suggestions as to how to identify racers that should be allowed to run off the -.3 index? I don't remember the number, but if my memory hasn't failed, at the first USCN we had a very small number of IHRA cars that supported the race. Just a thought: To make the car count even better and include more racers just run off the "old" NHRA index before the -.3. That would allow all the NHRA cars that could only run the old index or .3 under to get out of the garage and race, too. Just my .02.. What do you think? __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

09-22-2010, 09:15 AM	#48
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Racing fairness versus Circus attendance Just run off the records like it use to be! Let the crying begin.