Allen Johnson DQ'd?

[Lew Silverman]

The STANDARD established by NHRA is ZERO alcohol, verified by random testing. If you choose to drink on a race weekend, and a great many of us do, you run the risk of not meeting the standard! I am not a Doctor or a trained test administrator, but I DO know what ZERO means. If I don't drink, I don't have to guess how long the alcohol will take to dissipate in my system. So why chance it? I'm also not a lawyer, but on this one particular weekend, alcohol was a problem for HIM. I saw the interview that Mr. Johnson gave on ESPN yesterday, and I can only imagine how badly he feels, because his tears looked real. We'll have to wait and see if anything positive comes from this incident. Maybe someone else will just "say No!" when tempted to drink (or drug) during a race weekend, knowing that NHRA is willing and able to enforce its standards.

Lew

[Yo Ken]

Ron, and to everyone else that keeps bringing up that Bruce being moderator some how negates his opinion.

Bruce has a right to his opinion, and for the record, a moderator enforces the rules of Class Racer. They do not give up the right to post there opinion when they become a moderator.

I see nothing libel about his posts, and unless Allen Johnson contacts me to remove this thread, I see no reason why it should not stay.

Ken Miele

[SSDiv6]

Not trying to “lawyer'n” as you imply. Nevertheless, when in a public forum you make statements such as an individual has a drinking problem without any proof and/or evidence, how would you define it?

By the way, he was not busted. He failed a randomly provided test. Failing such a test is not enough for you to determine an individual’s character. I recognize that due to his exposure, he is held to a higher standard. However, he admitted to his indiscretion and never said he had a drinking problem. If he had admitted to a drinking problem, then you had the right to say and post your statement.

It does not matter if it was a Pro racer, Sportsman racer or NHRA Staff member, anyone can fail the test due to an indiscretion.

I find interesting the FAA’s alcohol violation threshold for pilots is a blood alcohol level content of 0.040. Yes, I recognize we are not racing airplanes. Nevertheless, by the FAA guidelines, at 0.027 he was not impaired to fly a commercial airliner full of passengers.

For your edification, I do not watch too much TV or prior debates. In my line of business and industry, we deal all the time with such issues as libel and slander, and it has gone both ways; on our part and also from customers and the competition. They have ended with public retractions and many times included financial liability.

As regards to your arrogance, I fully understood Julie’s statement. All she conveyed is the fact she has seen NHRA personnel being subject to the random testing. However, you continued asking her what she was trying to say.

As regards to Andy’s Dad, we all know the rules on posting and we recognize your position as moderator, however, you do not have to keep empowering yourself.

[KingReptile]

When i was racing i would never drink a drop all weekend I wanted to maintain all the energy and concentration I could.I dont know what hole some u guys crawled out from Hes a sponge it is what it is~~~

[Bruce Noland]

Guys this thread is about Johnson's drinking and not my pointing out he had a problem with booze. Sorry you are so upset about the word busted but I think it applies here just like a guy who is busted in tech for bogus parts.

Also, the gentleman in question issued public statements that said he had put down a "few" the night before. Most people in the "real" world agree that drinking the night before racing is just plain stupid. Maybe you guys do it all the time; providing you are actually racers.

Julie said she disagreed with my statement and then failed to state what she disagreed with. You're showing real bias when it comes to this post because she is the one who initiated the disagreement issue. I simply asked what she was disagreeing with.

It's all over the Internet now. There are probably much stronger comments out there than the one I made. Good luck with the phony libel deal. And the phony anger for that matter.

You guys can play with this thing all you want but it won't change the facts.

[FED 387]

I think the main thing to come out of this and I'm sure many have done the same thing is that ZERO TOLERANCE means NO drinking of alcoholic beverages will be tolerated by NHRA no matter who you are. If you wanna drink A BEER ,ONE NO MORE THAN ONE beer you'll probably be OK really should not do that either---Ya wanna do more than that you're gonna be sorry--- That's all there is to this. Does not matter if you are Allen Johnson, Glidden, Jeggie, Westcott, Manzo,Bernstein or whoever they are testing and if you get caught you're gonna be in trouble cuz they are gonna watch ya from now on---End of story--------- Comp 387

[Superfan1]

Originally Posted by Jason Corlew

ok seriously you think I guy has two cocktails with dinner makes him an alcky? Not a chance. most states dui is .08. Johnson blew a .027, not the .27 that was reported by nhra.com. .027 ain't jack. a double shot of jack is more than .027 and I can promise you one double shot of jack ain't gonna impare me one bit. He's a much bigger guy than I am. If he had a mixed drink, like he says, and that was it, .027 seems more likely. I'm pretty sure .27 theyd take drastic measures. there is a VAST difference in .27 and .027. If he was 1.27 that would indicate a drinking problem. OBVIOUSLY, the guys been around for more than one of these. if he had a drinking problem this wouldn't be the first of these incidents. For the record, sucking on a certs don't work, nor does sucking a penny, lol

You are completely missing the point. He blew an .027 in the morning which means his BAC was .20 - .25 the night before. In order to be at that level, he had a lot more than a few drinks with dinner.

[Jack Matyas]

We are all allowed to have an opinion -- however all he admitted to was having drinks with dinner ..........and yet some here insist he has a drinking problem - a fact that has yet to been proven .Hang 'em high ??? Not just yet ...........

[X-TECH MAN]

I havent heard/seen this much crap said about someone even when Tom "Condom" was caught DUI in a low life section of Calif.

[art leong]

For a libel case you need to show damages. And I don't think anyone could prove any.
But the fact that all these posts in this thread about something that does not concern anyone on here. I can tell you that I knew a few Pro drivers that took a drink before every round.
The reaction to this borders on Stupid. It's simple math he got caught that's it
How this can go this many pages. Shows me that all the ranting about the new cars will not be heard by anyone that can make a difference. And if they do see it they won't take it seriously.