Allen Johnson DQ'd?

[Bruce Noland]

Bernie,

No, I don't drink.

Yes, most of us have made at least one dumb mistake.

[Andys dad]

You said - "most folks agree that he was using poor judgment."

That is your arrogance

Where do you get your information?


Oh I forgot you do have the very socially significant and important position of moderator of this forum.

I can say you do not have enough gumption to even bend a little and say “maybe you spoke without thinking or that maybe you could have been just a little "over the top" as you put it.

I really appreciate your ability to "man up" and admit when you are wrong - rather than just continuing to make others wrong

BTW

You have a right to your opinion when you keep it to yourself but you do not have a right to publicly denigrate anyone in the name of free speech when you do not know the facts about what you are saying

[Ed Fernandez]

Kenny,freeze this thread.It's really getting ridiculous now.

[Yo Ken]

Ron, and to everyone else that keeps bringing up that Bruce being moderator some how negates his opinion.

Bruce has a right to his opinion, and for the record, a moderator enforces the rules of Class Racer. They do not give up the right to post there opinion when they become a moderator.

I see nothing libel about his posts, and unless Allen Johnson contacts me to remove this thread, I see no reason why it should not stay.

Ken Miele

[SSDiv6]

Not trying to “lawyer'n” as you imply. Nevertheless, when in a public forum you make statements such as an individual has a drinking problem without any proof and/or evidence, how would you define it?

By the way, he was not busted. He failed a randomly provided test. Failing such a test is not enough for you to determine an individual’s character. I recognize that due to his exposure, he is held to a higher standard. However, he admitted to his indiscretion and never said he had a drinking problem. If he had admitted to a drinking problem, then you had the right to say and post your statement.

It does not matter if it was a Pro racer, Sportsman racer or NHRA Staff member, anyone can fail the test due to an indiscretion.

I find interesting the FAA’s alcohol violation threshold for pilots is a blood alcohol level content of 0.040. Yes, I recognize we are not racing airplanes. Nevertheless, by the FAA guidelines, at 0.027 he was not impaired to fly a commercial airliner full of passengers.

For your edification, I do not watch too much TV or prior debates. In my line of business and industry, we deal all the time with such issues as libel and slander, and it has gone both ways; on our part and also from customers and the competition. They have ended with public retractions and many times included financial liability.

As regards to your arrogance, I fully understood Julie’s statement. All she conveyed is the fact she has seen NHRA personnel being subject to the random testing. However, you continued asking her what she was trying to say.

As regards to Andy’s Dad, we all know the rules on posting and we recognize your position as moderator, however, you do not have to keep empowering yourself.

[KingReptile]

When i was racing i would never drink a drop all weekend I wanted to maintain all the energy and concentration I could.I dont know what hole some u guys crawled out from Hes a sponge it is what it is~~~

[Bruce Noland]

Guys this thread is about Johnson's drinking and not my pointing out he had a problem with booze. Sorry you are so upset about the word busted but I think it applies here just like a guy who is busted in tech for bogus parts.

Also, the gentleman in question issued public statements that said he had put down a "few" the night before. Most people in the "real" world agree that drinking the night before racing is just plain stupid. Maybe you guys do it all the time; providing you are actually racers.

Julie said she disagreed with my statement and then failed to state what she disagreed with. You're showing real bias when it comes to this post because she is the one who initiated the disagreement issue. I simply asked what she was disagreeing with.

It's all over the Internet now. There are probably much stronger comments out there than the one I made. Good luck with the phony libel deal. And the phony anger for that matter.

You guys can play with this thing all you want but it won't change the facts.

[FED 387]

I think the main thing to come out of this and I'm sure many have done the same thing is that ZERO TOLERANCE means NO drinking of alcoholic beverages will be tolerated by NHRA no matter who you are. If you wanna drink A BEER ,ONE NO MORE THAN ONE beer you'll probably be OK really should not do that either---Ya wanna do more than that you're gonna be sorry--- That's all there is to this. Does not matter if you are Allen Johnson, Glidden, Jeggie, Westcott, Manzo,Bernstein or whoever they are testing and if you get caught you're gonna be in trouble cuz they are gonna watch ya from now on---End of story--------- Comp 387

[Jack Matyas]

We are all allowed to have an opinion -- however all he admitted to was having drinks with dinner ..........and yet some here insist he has a drinking problem - a fact that has yet to been proven .Hang 'em high ??? Not just yet ...........