Allen Johnson DQ'd?

[Andys dad]

I assume this post won't last long but ... I just can not hold back

Bruce you are way out of line as the Moderator - you are suppose to censor posts like yours

Egregious, stupid, irresponsible, uncalled for slander and liable

Free speech does not give you the right (especially as the moderator of this forum) to say what ever you want - when ever you want - where ever you want

If the administrator of this forum does not take swift action and reprimand you I hope the Johnson's get word of your remarks and pursue public and legal action against you and this forum

Clean up this act

I am positive you have no first hand knowledge about what you said - I don't believe you are on a first name basis with Allen

I doubt you even know him but if you do go apologize for what you said

OK - I am going to post this - even though I think it will not be met with fair even handed reasonable rational action

[Billy Nees]

Hey Andys Dad, I don't really see anything wrong with what Bruce said in his post and if you knew Bruce and I you would know that we don't agree on many things. If he blew an .024 AND you drop .02 for every hour that you don't have a drink AND he waited 11 hours then he must have been pretty well slammed. At least slammed beyond "social drinking".
I don't know the man so I don't know if he has a problem or not but I wouldn't want to race him first round.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

I assume this post won't last long but ... I just can not hold back

Bruce you are way out of line as the Moderator - you are suppose to censor posts like yours

Egregious, stupid, irresponsible, uncalled for slander and liable

Free speech does not give you the right (especially as the moderator of this forum) to say what ever you want - when ever you want - where ever you want

If the administrator of this forum does not take swift action and reprimand you I hope the Johnson's get word of your remarks and pursue public and legal action against you and this forum

Clean up this act

I am positive you have no first hand knowledge about what you said - I don't believe you are on a first name basis with Allen

I doubt you even know him but if you do go apologize for what you said

OK - I am going to post this - even though I think it will not be met with fair even handed reasonable rational action

Man, you are way, way over the top here. Nobody is going to remove this post. I hope it stays on forever. I am a moderator here. That does not mean that I don't or can't have my own opinion. Think of me as the gardner who pulls the weeds. There is no freedom of speech on any of these sites. We post according to the rules. And it's not slander to point out that a person is having problems with booze. Feel free to PM me anytime. Or just blast away and I'll kindly respond.

[Bernie Cunningham]

Bruce,
I don't care either way, but, are we to assume that you never part take of a cold beer every now and then ? I didn't like ya comment either.

Most sane people I know do that to relax after a big day, yea, he made a bad decision to go test early, probably the major downfall. I, and all of us have made some of those bad decisions in our lives. Was the testing flawed? We'll never know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FORGET ABOUT IT.

PARTY ON !!!!!!!

[Bruce Noland]

Bernie,

No, I don't drink.

Yes, most of us have made at least one dumb mistake.

[Andys dad]

You said - "most folks agree that he was using poor judgment."

That is your arrogance

Where do you get your information?


Oh I forgot you do have the very socially significant and important position of moderator of this forum.

I can say you do not have enough gumption to even bend a little and say “maybe you spoke without thinking or that maybe you could have been just a little "over the top" as you put it.

I really appreciate your ability to "man up" and admit when you are wrong - rather than just continuing to make others wrong

BTW

You have a right to your opinion when you keep it to yourself but you do not have a right to publicly denigrate anyone in the name of free speech when you do not know the facts about what you are saying

[Ed Fernandez]

Kenny,freeze this thread.It's really getting ridiculous now.

[Yo Ken]

Ron, and to everyone else that keeps bringing up that Bruce being moderator some how negates his opinion.

Bruce has a right to his opinion, and for the record, a moderator enforces the rules of Class Racer. They do not give up the right to post there opinion when they become a moderator.

I see nothing libel about his posts, and unless Allen Johnson contacts me to remove this thread, I see no reason why it should not stay.

Ken Miele

[SSDiv6]

Not trying to “lawyer'n” as you imply. Nevertheless, when in a public forum you make statements such as an individual has a drinking problem without any proof and/or evidence, how would you define it?

By the way, he was not busted. He failed a randomly provided test. Failing such a test is not enough for you to determine an individual’s character. I recognize that due to his exposure, he is held to a higher standard. However, he admitted to his indiscretion and never said he had a drinking problem. If he had admitted to a drinking problem, then you had the right to say and post your statement.

It does not matter if it was a Pro racer, Sportsman racer or NHRA Staff member, anyone can fail the test due to an indiscretion.

I find interesting the FAA’s alcohol violation threshold for pilots is a blood alcohol level content of 0.040. Yes, I recognize we are not racing airplanes. Nevertheless, by the FAA guidelines, at 0.027 he was not impaired to fly a commercial airliner full of passengers.

For your edification, I do not watch too much TV or prior debates. In my line of business and industry, we deal all the time with such issues as libel and slander, and it has gone both ways; on our part and also from customers and the competition. They have ended with public retractions and many times included financial liability.

As regards to your arrogance, I fully understood Julie’s statement. All she conveyed is the fact she has seen NHRA personnel being subject to the random testing. However, you continued asking her what she was trying to say.

As regards to Andy’s Dad, we all know the rules on posting and we recognize your position as moderator, however, you do not have to keep empowering yourself.

[KingReptile]

When i was racing i would never drink a drop all weekend I wanted to maintain all the energy and concentration I could.I dont know what hole some u guys crawled out from Hes a sponge it is what it is~~~