Allen Johnson DQ'd?

Tom Goldman · 09-19-2010, 02:34 AM

After the hours long wait that racers undergoing the drug tests had to endure, I understand why Allen went right away,probably more concerned with getting it over with early , and possibly not having a senerio like Matt Guidera had last year. ....Thursdays waits for testing were up to 3 or more hours, only one technician to test what seemed like about half the racers there !......More than a few racers missed runs on Thursday due to the long wait !!.............I got my invitation Friday ,5 min. before 1st round!....I went right after the run ,and still waited well over an hour and a half.......I left Roy Johnson go ahead of me ,so he could make it back in time for the first qualifying session of Pro Stock !.........They seemed to be testing every one , Random my A**, Roy Hill was there too , which at least provided for a little entertaining conversation about the previous days events!.............Tom

Bruce Noland · 09-19-2010, 07:34 AM

The most important point from this episode is that Johnson has a drinking problem. There is no other explanation for him to take such an unprofessional risk.

The rule does include race officials. I'm not sure Tom is considered an official. Maybe the testers could go up in the tower and ask old good times Tommy blow into one of their little machines.

sc371f · 09-19-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

The most important point from this episode is that Johnson has a drinking problem. There is no other explanation for him to take such an unprofessional risk.

The rule does include race officials. I'm not sure Tom is considered an official. Maybe the testers could go up in the tower and ask old good times Tommy blow into one of their little machines.

You know that he has a drinking problem? I really don't see how that can be a fair statement.

Julie Jordan · 09-19-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

The rule does include race officials. I'm not sure Tom is considered an official. Maybe the testers could go up in the tower and ask old good times Tommy blow into one of their little machines.

I disagree with this statement. I was pulled for a random testing at Pomona a few years back (they gave me the notice in the staging lanes before one of our qualifying runs). When I reported for duty, there was a NHRA official having to do the same thing. I was told by the medical personnel that their testing pool involved all racers and employees.

SS Engine Guy · 09-19-2010, 01:40 PM

Lots of chemicals used at the races contain substances that can cause readings. Brake cleaners(declorinated of course) can be absorbed thru the skin or inhaled. Many types of cleaners. The brake cleaner is alcohol under pressure. As mentioned breath mints along with mouth washes and countless other products will produce goofy readings.

Bruce Noland · 09-19-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie Jordan

I disagree with this statement. I was pulled for a random testing at Pomona a few years back (they gave me the notice in the staging lanes before one of our qualifying runs). When I reported for duty, there was a NHRA official having to do the same thing. I was told by the medical personnel that their testing pool involved all racers and employees.

What part of my post are you disagreeing with? Or are you disagreeing just to disagree?

S0371f, DuI's are usually a good indicator that a person is not in control of his good senses or of his alcohol consumption for that matter.

Andy's Dad, Johnson said he drank a few and most folks agree that he was using poor judgement. Why would a man take a chance on embarrassing himself, family, sport and sponsor with alcohol? And if he didn't have a problem with alcohol before, it has created one for him now.

Julie Jordan · 09-19-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

What part of my post are you disagreeing with? Or are you disagreeing just to disagree?

S0371f, DuI's are usually a good indicator that a person is not in control of his good senses or of his alcohol consumption for that matter.

Andy's Dad, Johnson said he drank a few and most folks agree that he was using poor judgement. Why would a man take a chance on embarrassing himself, family, sport and sponsor with alcohol? And if he didn't have a problem with alcohol before, it has created one for him now.

Well if you read my post I guess you would see the statement I disagreed with, as I quoted you.

Bruce Noland · 09-19-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie Jordan

I disagree with this statement. I was pulled for a random testing at Pomona a few years back (they gave me the notice in the staging lanes before one of our qualifying runs). When I reported for duty, there was a NHRA official having to do the same thing. I was told by the medical personnel that their testing pool involved all racers and employees.

I have read it two times.

Your words: "I disagree with this statement."

The remaining portion of your post doesn't tell us what you disagree with in my post. It simply recounts an experience you had at a race. Why don't you try reading my post. Then try to square your post with mine.

FINESPLINE · 09-19-2010, 10:54 AM

[QUOTE=Tom Goldman;211604]After the hours long wait that racers undergoing the drug tests had to endure, I understand why Allen went right away,probably more concerned with getting it over with early , and possibly not having a senerio like Matt Guidera had last year. ....Thursdays waits for testing were up to 3 or more hours, only one technician to test what seemed like about half the racers there !......More than a few racers missed runs on Thursday due to the long wait !!.............I got my invitation Friday ,5 min. before 1st round!....I went right after the run ,and still waited well over an hour and a half.......I left Roy Johnson go ahead of me ,so he could make it back in time for the first qualifying session of Pro Stock !.........They seemed to be testing every one , Random my A**, Roy Hill was there too , which at least provided for a little entertaining conversation about the previous days events!.............Tom[/QUOTE You have to be kidding me that at the biggest meet of the year, they (NHRA) have ONE person administering these tests knowing (maybe) that the whole test takes 15 minutes. The way I figure if the the guy is a damn robot he can test 3 people per hour @ 20 minutes per person. Boy , NHRA sure is giving its members its moneys worth.------- OR NOT ! Don't misunderstand me as I am totally against alcohol and driving but again it seems that the NHRA chooses to go the cheap way out . ------Just my thoughts !

09-19-2010, 02:34 AM	#1
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,476 Likes: 889 Liked 882 Times in 236 Posts	Re: Allen Johnson DQ'd? After the hours long wait that racers undergoing the drug tests had to endure, I understand why Allen went right away,probably more concerned with getting it over with early , and possibly not having a senerio like Matt Guidera had last year. ....Thursdays waits for testing were up to 3 or more hours, only one technician to test what seemed like about half the racers there !......More than a few racers missed runs on Thursday due to the long wait !!.............I got my invitation Friday ,5 min. before 1st round!....I went right after the run ,and still waited well over an hour and a half.......I left Roy Johnson go ahead of me ,so he could make it back in time for the first qualifying session of Pro Stock !.........They seemed to be testing every one , Random my A**, Roy Hill was there too , which at least provided for a little entertaining conversation about the previous days events!.............Tom __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

09-19-2010, 07:34 AM	#2
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Allen Johnson DQ'd? The most important point from this episode is that Johnson has a drinking problem. There is no other explanation for him to take such an unprofessional risk. The rule does include race officials. I'm not sure Tom is considered an official. Maybe the testers could go up in the tower and ask old good times Tommy blow into one of their little machines. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

09-19-2010, 01:40 PM	#5
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Allen Johnson DQ'd? Lots of chemicals used at the races contain substances that can cause readings. Brake cleaners(declorinated of course) can be absorbed thru the skin or inhaled. Many types of cleaners. The brake cleaner is alcohol under pressure. As mentioned breath mints along with mouth washes and countless other products will produce goofy readings.

09-19-2010, 10:54 AM	#9
FINESPLINE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Island of high taxes, N.Y. Posts: 541 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Allen Johnson DQ'd? [QUOTE=Tom Goldman;211604]After the hours long wait that racers undergoing the drug tests had to endure, I understand why Allen went right away,probably more concerned with getting it over with early , and possibly not having a senerio like Matt Guidera had last year. ....Thursdays waits for testing were up to 3 or more hours, only one technician to test what seemed like about half the racers there !......More than a few racers missed runs on Thursday due to the long wait !!.............I got my invitation Friday ,5 min. before 1st round!....I went right after the run ,and still waited well over an hour and a half.......I left Roy Johnson go ahead of me ,so he could make it back in time for the first qualifying session of Pro Stock !.........They seemed to be testing every one , Random my A**, Roy Hill was there too , which at least provided for a little entertaining conversation about the previous days events!.............Tom[/QUOTE You have to be kidding me that at the biggest meet of the year, they (NHRA) have ONE person administering these tests knowing (maybe) that the whole test takes 15 minutes. The way I figure if the the guy is a damn robot he can test 3 people per hour @ 20 minutes per person. Boy , NHRA sure is giving its members its moneys worth.------- OR NOT ! Don't misunderstand me as I am totally against alcohol and driving but again it seems that the NHRA chooses to go the cheap way out . ------Just my thoughts !