Drag Pak/Cobra Jet FX classes

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Peter Ash

Just for informations sake!
If I recall correctly, Mopar Performance told me they had to wait "(FOR THE NHRA)" to supply a HP rating from the three complete engines "SUBMITTED TO THE NHRA" prior to the release of the Drag Pak cars.

Cheers

Peter Ash

Not doubting that you heard that, but NHRA relies on the manufacturers to supply engine specs and submit a horsepower rating. I seriously doubt that NHRA "appraised" the hp of these engines. There may have been some negotiations though

[Jeff Lee]

I spoke to NHRA about the process. The OEM's sent their "recommendations" on DP/CJ HP levels. NHRA told them to "think some more". So yes, there was some negotiations albeit as we know now, not enough.
One or more engine combo's were submitted with such an insulting low HP recommendation and / or equipment the proposals went straight to the trash can. Those combination is not on the books. And I won't say what, so don't ask.

I will say this, it's apparent to me NHRA Tech is not happy with the below index runs by the DP/CJ cars at Indy and the issue is under heated discussion. The AHFS has their hands tied for blanket HP corrections the way some would like to see them adjusted and they must follow the AHFS policy (which never forecast runs so far under the index). And like it or not, NHRA has to look at all parties interests before mandating new policy. I firmly believe NHRA is on our side.

[X-TECH MAN]

[QUOTE=Jeff Lee; NHRA has to look at all parties interests before mandating new policy. I firmly believe NHRA is on our side.[/QUOTE]

LMFAO ! Good one Jeff.

[BlueOval Ralph]

It was FORD Jesse had at least 3 more CRATE MOTOR combo's that were turned down.

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

I spoke to NHRA about the process. The OEM's sent their "recommendations" on DP/CJ HP levels. NHRA told them to "think some more". So yes, there was some negotiations albeit as we know now, not enough.
One or more engine combo's were submitted with such an insulting low HP recommendation and / or equipment the proposals went straight to the trash can. Those combination is not on the books. And I won't say what, so don't ask.

I will say this, it's apparent to me NHRA Tech is not happy with the below index runs by the DP/CJ cars at Indy and the issue is under heated discussion. The AHFS has their hands tied for blanket HP corrections the way some would like to see them adjusted and they must follow the AHFS policy (which never forecast runs so far under the index). And like it or not, NHRA has to look at all parties interests before mandating new policy. I firmly believe NHRA is on our side.

[Bruce Noland]

I have several letters from Graham Light, Gray and Gracia and Linda Louie. They made it perfectly clear that the HP set on the CJ's came from Ford and that they accepted Ford's rating. They told me that no one was getting over on them because they had the ahfs to fix any problems that may pop up. hmmmm.....

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

I have several letters from Graham Light, Gray and Gracia and Linda Louie. They made it perfectly clear that the HP set on the CJ's came from Ford and that they accepted Ford's rating. They told me that no one was getting over on them because they had the ahfs to fix any problems that may pop up. hmmmm.....

And if you read my post you'll note that is what I said. Ford & Dodge gave numbers, NHRA accepted them...eventually.

[Charley Downing]

You people kill me. Numbers are down in our sport so NHRA/Ford/Dodge do something to help save the class and give it some life (Because they do care about us somewhat). And all you A** CLOWNS can't see the big pitcher. It’s all about you and your combo and how NHRA screwed you. Who cares if we lose 5-10 racers per year in S/SS. We can go back to the way it was two years ago and in 5 years your fast Stock and SSer will be nothing more than a $60,000 bracket one car. Because we as a class would not change with the times. Are these cars under factored, yes. But people will not build new cars unless they have some kind of advantage. How much GM stuff is being built right now, zero because there is no advantage. I for one would like to race in Stock and Superstock for the next 30 plus years and this is the only way that is going to happen. Programs like these help to bring in new people and more cars witch help us grow as a class. End of story A** CLOWNS.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

You people kill me. Numbers are down in our sport so NHRA/Ford/Dodge do something to help save the class and give it some life (Because they do care about us somewhat). And all you A** CLOWNS can't see the big pitcher. It’s all about you and your combo and how NHRA screwed you. Who cares if we lose 5-10 racers per year in S/SS. We can go back to the way it was two years ago and in 5 years your fast Stock and SSer will be nothing more than a $60,000 bracket one car. Because we as a class would not change with the times. Are these cars under factored, yes. But people will not build new cars unless they have some kind of advantage. How much GM stuff is being built right now, zero because there is no advantage. I for one would like to race in Stock and Superstock for the next 30 plus years and this is the only way that is going to happen. Programs like these help to bring in new people and more cars witch help us grow as a class. End of story A** CLOWNS.

I think you have been smoking to much of your own bath water.....heh heh !

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

And if you read my post you'll note that is what I said. Ford & Dodge gave numbers, NHRA accepted them...eventually.

Negotiations? This post does not square with your first post. According to nhra, Ford produced the figures and nhra promptly rolled over.

Also, I don't believe this promo stuff about this being a great deal for Stock and Super Stock. This is just a short term cash n carry deal.

[Ed Wright]

I can't wait for the first 7 second GT/AA Cobra Jet.