Congrats to Charles Blossom

Billy Nees · 09-03-2010, 11:37 AM

Amen!

Mike Carr · 09-03-2010, 11:41 AM

My best run in DF/S was 14.93, heavy, in great air at Hagerstown MD. Nicole Stephenson has the record at 14.72, and ran 14.66 at Indy last year.

I guess we know now how y'all feel racing against the DP/CJ cars. LOL

Tom Moock · 09-03-2010, 11:55 AM

What year PT cruiser is Charley racing, They didn`t make PT cruiser turbo convertible until 2005. Tom

Randall Klein · 09-03-2010, 10:31 AM

Years ago, sage Dan Dvorak commented on a suddenly fast, former mid-range racer: he ain't smarter, his engine builder didn't get better....HE'S IN THE WRONG CLASS!

funny and true then.....and now

Ed Fernandez · 09-03-2010, 12:29 PM

Thanks Dwight for the shortest,most descriptive reason we're in the boat we're in.

FED 387 · 09-03-2010, 01:09 PM

04 PT Turbo Conv is in the classification runs at 14.13 pounds--comp

bill dedman · 09-03-2010, 01:34 PM

Dwight and Ed:

Thank you for your responses. If you're right, why doesn't Bob Shaw own two of these Neons???

Maybe I'm dead wrong, but it seems to me that the fault, in this case, lies not within the factoring system (and therefore the classification,) but the amount of boost available to the engine. These turbocharged engines are factory-rated at the boost levels dictated, to give minimal warranty problems, and in certain instances, it is possible through engine parameter manipulation, (cam profile, fuel delivery rates, ignition timing, etc.) to increase boost levels with OEM equipment, which can increase power output, dramatically and concurrently. A 150 horsepower engine (normally-aspirated) when treated to 15 pounds of boost, becomes a 300-horsepower engine. Give it another 8 pounds of boost, and it picks up another 75 horsepower. This is not my opinion, but rather seems to be generally-accepted theory according to several books on turbocharging theory, by authoritative sources.

My contention is, Mr. Blossom has, in true hot rodding fashion, has found the combination that will produce horsepower far beyond what would be generated by that engine at factory boost levels. As I have said, this is only my opinion; I don't claim to have any information beyond that.

But, if I am correct, a tell-tale boost gauge placed on the engine by NHRA, would go a long way toward rectifying this problem without resorting to re-factoring the engine. All it takes is a vacuum line and a gauge. But NHRA hasn't seemed to be pro-actve in pursuing this path... Surprise!!!

Food for thought....

Dennis P Chapman · 09-03-2010, 01:39 PM

I dont think Bob is a mopar guy.

art leong · 09-03-2010, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Moock

What year PT cruiser is Charley racing, They didn`t make PT cruiser turbo convertible until 2005. Tom

Wrong They made them in 2004 All convertibles were turbocharged

bill dedman · 09-03-2010, 07:18 PM

And, shame on me for calling Mr. Blossom's PT Cruiser a Neon... I THINK the Neon's SRT turbo engine is a more powerful version of the OHC Mopar 4-cylinder than what goes (went?) into the PT Cruiser.

Sorry for any confusion....

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Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Congrats to Charles Blossom My best run in DF/S was 14.93, heavy, in great air at Hagerstown MD. Nicole Stephenson has the record at 14.72, and ran 14.66 at Indy last year. I guess we know now how y'all feel racing against the DP/CJ cars. LOL __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

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Randall Klein Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 785 Likes: 45 Liked 316 Times in 67 Posts	Re: Congrats to Charles Blossom Years ago, sage Dan Dvorak commented on a suddenly fast, former mid-range racer: he ain't smarter, his engine builder didn't get better....HE'S IN THE WRONG CLASS! funny and true then.....and now

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Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Congrats to Charles Blossom Thanks Dwight for the shortest,most descriptive reason we're in the boat we're in. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

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FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,420 Likes: 529 Liked 333 Times in 180 Posts	Re: Congrats to Charles Blossom 04 PT Turbo Conv is in the classification runs at 14.13 pounds--comp

09-03-2010, 01:34 PM	#7
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Congrats to Charles Blossom Dwight and Ed: Thank you for your responses. If you're right, why doesn't Bob Shaw own two of these Neons??? Maybe I'm dead wrong, but it seems to me that the fault, in this case, lies not within the factoring system (and therefore the classification,) but the amount of boost available to the engine. These turbocharged engines are factory-rated at the boost levels dictated, to give minimal warranty problems, and in certain instances, it is possible through engine parameter manipulation, (cam profile, fuel delivery rates, ignition timing, etc.) to increase boost levels with OEM equipment, which can increase power output, dramatically and concurrently. A 150 horsepower engine (normally-aspirated) when treated to 15 pounds of boost, becomes a 300-horsepower engine. Give it another 8 pounds of boost, and it picks up another 75 horsepower. This is not my opinion, but rather seems to be generally-accepted theory according to several books on turbocharging theory, by authoritative sources. My contention is, Mr. Blossom has, in true hot rodding fashion, has found the combination that will produce horsepower far beyond what would be generated by that engine at factory boost levels. As I have said, this is only my opinion; I don't claim to have any information beyond that. But, if I am correct, a tell-tale boost gauge placed on the engine by NHRA, would go a long way toward rectifying this problem without resorting to re-factoring the engine. All it takes is a vacuum line and a gauge. But NHRA hasn't seemed to be pro-actve in pursuing this path... Surprise!!! Food for thought.... __________________ Bill

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Dennis P Chapman VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toms River NJ Posts: 1,594 Likes: 415 Liked 53 Times in 25 Posts	Re: Congrats to Charles Blossom I dont think Bob is a mopar guy. __________________ Dennis P Chapman 1904 STK NHRA National Record Holder Car Owner.

09-03-2010, 07:18 PM	#10
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Congrats to Charles Blossom And, shame on me for calling Mr. Blossom's PT Cruiser a Neon... I THINK the Neon's SRT turbo engine is a more powerful version of the OHC Mopar 4-cylinder than what goes (went?) into the PT Cruiser. Sorry for any confusion.... __________________ Bill