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Old 08-12-2010, 12:25 PM   #1
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Carl Olson laid it out in the interview that Julie posted the link to. The management and board stole the organization from the members. The question is, did they do it legally or illegally ? I heard from an attorney in California earlier in the day that if the vote was illegal then they have been operating illegally for 29 years and no statue of limitations would protect them. I have talked to a lot of people who were members in 1981. Probably 80% of them say they never got a ballot to vote on this. Every person that I heard from that did vote on it said they voted no.

If this vote was conducted and monitored only by NHRA what was there to make sure it was done honestly and fairly? Was there an independent , non biased third party that did this? Olson stated that NHRA management wanted to do this so they would have every reason to make sure it went through. What would keep them from throwing away the no votes and just keeping the yes ones. Do any of you trust the management / board members we now have? These are questions that need to be answered but are hard to get to. There is very little transparency in this organization. Is there anyone who worked at NHRA in 1981 that would be willing to discuss this?
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:27 PM   #2
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Carl Olson laid it out in the interview that Julie posted the link to. The management and board stole the organization from the members. The question is, did they do it legally or illegally ? I heard from an attorney in California earlier in the day that if the vote was illegal then they have been operating illegally for 29 years and no statue of limitations would protect them. I have talked to a lot of people who were members in 1981. Probably 80% of them say they never got a ballot to vote on this. Every person that I heard from that did vote on it said they voted no.

If this vote was conducted and monitored only by NHRA what was there to make sure it was done honestly and fairly? Was there an independent , non biased third party that did this? Olson stated that NHRA management wanted to do this so they would have every reason to make sure it went through. What would keep them from throwing away the no votes and just keeping the yes ones. Do any of you trust the management / board members we now have? These are questions that need to be answered but are hard to get to. There is very little transparency in this organization. Is there anyone who worked at NHRA in 1981 that would be willing to discuss this?
Without being political does this sound familiar?

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ROAD TRIP

I think it might make for an interesting day to spend at the Official Records Office of Los Angeles County. Also may have to drop by the division of corporations in Sacrsmento.

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Old 08-12-2010, 04:11 PM   #4
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Greg, I do applaud your effort to gather info on the Gestpo and there action, but what is your intentions. I belive they got away with screwing the membership.
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Greg, I do applaud your effort to gather info on the Gestpo and there action, but what is your intentions. I belive they got away with screwing the membership.
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My intentions right now are to gather as much information that I can find and see where that leads. If what they did in 1981 was illegal then there should be some remedy for the members, like getting our rights back.
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Good enough..........we as members should support you.
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Old 08-12-2010, 09:11 PM   #7
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My intentions right now are to gather as much information that I can find and see where that leads. If what they did in 1981 was illegal then there should be some remedy for the members, like getting our rights back.
Please show up at the next race with your engine disassembled.Thank you.

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Sounds like a plan.I'm in for either a suit or a new poll to membership.
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Please show up at the next race with your engine disassembled.Thank you.

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Sounds like a plan.I'm in for either a suit or a new poll to membership.
Ed,

Going to court takes too much time and energy, not to mention money. Polls are a good tool to determine the interests of the racers but will have little or no effect on the issues at hand. There are much easier ways to deal with situations like this. Take Form 13909 for example, all you have to do is fill it out and file it electronically or print it out and mail it in. There is a box that can be checked and the name of the person submitting the form will be withheld. At this very moment, there are several agencies taking a long look at all motor sport not for profit organizations. There are other very simple options as well. There is no need to wrestle with these problems when there are people who get paid to do it and it won't cost you a dime.
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